From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: atishp@atishpatra.org, Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: geert@linux-m68k.org, re@w6rz.net,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Out-of-bounds access when hartid >= NR_CPUS
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:12:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1733048.UrJg72UHvK@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-51188428-41ff-4962-b548-bf514a779723@palmerdabbelt-glaptop>
Am Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2021, 17:09:44 CEST schrieb Palmer Dabbelt:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 16:34:15 PDT (-0700), atishp@atishpatra.org wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:34 AM Heiko Stübner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am Dienstag, 26. Oktober 2021, 10:57:26 CEST schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> >> > Hi Heiko,
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 10:53 AM Heiko Stübner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
> >> > > Am Dienstag, 26. Oktober 2021, 08:44:31 CEST schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> >> > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:37 AM Ron Economos <re@w6rz.net> wrote:
> >> > > > > On 10/25/21 8:54 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >> > > > > > When booting a kernel with CONFIG_NR_CPUS=4 on Microchip PolarFire,
> >> > > > > > the 4th CPU either fails to come online, or the system crashes.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > This happens because PolarFire has 5 CPU cores: hart 0 is an e51,
> >> > > > > > and harts 1-4 are u54s, with the latter becoming CPUs 0-3 in Linux:
> >> > > > > > - unused core has hartid 0 (sifive,e51),
> >> > > > > > - processor 0 has hartid 1 (sifive,u74-mc),
> >> > > > > > - processor 1 has hartid 2 (sifive,u74-mc),
> >> > > > > > - processor 2 has hartid 3 (sifive,u74-mc),
> >> > > > > > - processor 3 has hartid 4 (sifive,u74-mc).
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I assume the same issue is present on the SiFive fu540 and fu740
> >> > > > > > SoCs, but I don't have access to these. The issue is not present
> >> > > > > > on StarFive JH7100, as processor 0 has hartid 1, and processor 1 has
> >> > > > > > hartid 0.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > arch/riscv/kernel/cpu_ops.c has:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > void *__cpu_up_stack_pointer[NR_CPUS] __section(".data");
> >> > > > > > void *__cpu_up_task_pointer[NR_CPUS] __section(".data");
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > void cpu_update_secondary_bootdata(unsigned int cpuid,
> >> > > > > > struct task_struct *tidle)
> >> > > > > > {
> >> > > > > > int hartid = cpuid_to_hartid_map(cpuid);
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > /* Make sure tidle is updated */
> >> > > > > > smp_mb();
> >> > > > > > WRITE_ONCE(__cpu_up_stack_pointer[hartid],
> >> > > > > > task_stack_page(tidle) + THREAD_SIZE);
> >> > > > > > WRITE_ONCE(__cpu_up_task_pointer[hartid], tidle);
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The above two writes cause out-of-bound accesses beyond
> >> > > > > > __cpu_up_{stack,pointer}_pointer[] if hartid >= CONFIG_NR_CPUS.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > }
> >> >
> >> > > > https://riscv.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/riscv-privileged-v1.10.pdf
> >> > > > says:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hart IDs might not necessarily be numbered contiguously in a
> >> > > > multiprocessor system, but at least one hart must have a hart
> >> > > > ID of zero.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Which means indexing arrays by hart ID is a no-go?
> >> > >
> >> > > Isn't that also similar on aarch64?
> >> > >
> >> > > On a rk3399 you get 0-3 and 100-101 and with the paragraph above
> >> > > something like this could very well exist on some riscv cpu too I guess.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, it looks like hart IDs are similar to MPIDRs on ARM.
> >>
> >> and they have the set_cpu_logical_map construct to map hwids
> >> to a continuous list of cpu-ids.
> >>
> >> So with hartids not being necessarily continuous this looks like
> >> riscv would need a similar mechanism.
> >>
> >
> > RISC-V already has a similar mechanism cpuid_to_hartid_map. Logical
> > cpu ids are continuous
> > while hartid can be sparse.
> >
> > The issue here is that __cpu_up_stack/task_pointer are per hart but
> > array size depends on the NR_CPUs
> > which represents the logical CPU.
> >
> > That's why, having a maximum number of hartids defined in config will
> > be helpful.
>
> I don't understand why we'd have both: if we can't find a CPU number for
> a hart, then all we can do is just leave it offline. Wouldn't it be
> simpler to just rely on NR_CPUS? We'll need to fix the crashes on
> overflows either way.
I'd think so.
The mhartid register is xlen big and as the spec says they don't have to be
contiguously, so it looks like hw-designers could adopt really "creative"
numbering.
So having a NR_HARTS won't really help, because there could be huge
gaps in numbering at some point.
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From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: atishp@atishpatra.org, Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Cc: geert@linux-m68k.org, re@w6rz.net,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Out-of-bounds access when hartid >= NR_CPUS
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:12:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1733048.UrJg72UHvK@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-51188428-41ff-4962-b548-bf514a779723@palmerdabbelt-glaptop>
Am Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2021, 17:09:44 CEST schrieb Palmer Dabbelt:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 16:34:15 PDT (-0700), atishp@atishpatra.org wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:34 AM Heiko Stübner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am Dienstag, 26. Oktober 2021, 10:57:26 CEST schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> >> > Hi Heiko,
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 10:53 AM Heiko Stübner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
> >> > > Am Dienstag, 26. Oktober 2021, 08:44:31 CEST schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> >> > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:37 AM Ron Economos <re@w6rz.net> wrote:
> >> > > > > On 10/25/21 8:54 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >> > > > > > When booting a kernel with CONFIG_NR_CPUS=4 on Microchip PolarFire,
> >> > > > > > the 4th CPU either fails to come online, or the system crashes.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > This happens because PolarFire has 5 CPU cores: hart 0 is an e51,
> >> > > > > > and harts 1-4 are u54s, with the latter becoming CPUs 0-3 in Linux:
> >> > > > > > - unused core has hartid 0 (sifive,e51),
> >> > > > > > - processor 0 has hartid 1 (sifive,u74-mc),
> >> > > > > > - processor 1 has hartid 2 (sifive,u74-mc),
> >> > > > > > - processor 2 has hartid 3 (sifive,u74-mc),
> >> > > > > > - processor 3 has hartid 4 (sifive,u74-mc).
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I assume the same issue is present on the SiFive fu540 and fu740
> >> > > > > > SoCs, but I don't have access to these. The issue is not present
> >> > > > > > on StarFive JH7100, as processor 0 has hartid 1, and processor 1 has
> >> > > > > > hartid 0.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > arch/riscv/kernel/cpu_ops.c has:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > void *__cpu_up_stack_pointer[NR_CPUS] __section(".data");
> >> > > > > > void *__cpu_up_task_pointer[NR_CPUS] __section(".data");
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > void cpu_update_secondary_bootdata(unsigned int cpuid,
> >> > > > > > struct task_struct *tidle)
> >> > > > > > {
> >> > > > > > int hartid = cpuid_to_hartid_map(cpuid);
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > /* Make sure tidle is updated */
> >> > > > > > smp_mb();
> >> > > > > > WRITE_ONCE(__cpu_up_stack_pointer[hartid],
> >> > > > > > task_stack_page(tidle) + THREAD_SIZE);
> >> > > > > > WRITE_ONCE(__cpu_up_task_pointer[hartid], tidle);
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The above two writes cause out-of-bound accesses beyond
> >> > > > > > __cpu_up_{stack,pointer}_pointer[] if hartid >= CONFIG_NR_CPUS.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > }
> >> >
> >> > > > https://riscv.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/riscv-privileged-v1.10.pdf
> >> > > > says:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hart IDs might not necessarily be numbered contiguously in a
> >> > > > multiprocessor system, but at least one hart must have a hart
> >> > > > ID of zero.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Which means indexing arrays by hart ID is a no-go?
> >> > >
> >> > > Isn't that also similar on aarch64?
> >> > >
> >> > > On a rk3399 you get 0-3 and 100-101 and with the paragraph above
> >> > > something like this could very well exist on some riscv cpu too I guess.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, it looks like hart IDs are similar to MPIDRs on ARM.
> >>
> >> and they have the set_cpu_logical_map construct to map hwids
> >> to a continuous list of cpu-ids.
> >>
> >> So with hartids not being necessarily continuous this looks like
> >> riscv would need a similar mechanism.
> >>
> >
> > RISC-V already has a similar mechanism cpuid_to_hartid_map. Logical
> > cpu ids are continuous
> > while hartid can be sparse.
> >
> > The issue here is that __cpu_up_stack/task_pointer are per hart but
> > array size depends on the NR_CPUs
> > which represents the logical CPU.
> >
> > That's why, having a maximum number of hartids defined in config will
> > be helpful.
>
> I don't understand why we'd have both: if we can't find a CPU number for
> a hart, then all we can do is just leave it offline. Wouldn't it be
> simpler to just rely on NR_CPUS? We'll need to fix the crashes on
> overflows either way.
I'd think so.
The mhartid register is xlen big and as the spec says they don't have to be
contiguously, so it looks like hw-designers could adopt really "creative"
numbering.
So having a NR_HARTS won't really help, because there could be huge
gaps in numbering at some point.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-28 16:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-25 15:54 Out-of-bounds access when hartid >= NR_CPUS Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-25 15:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-26 0:37 ` Ron Economos
2021-10-26 0:37 ` Ron Economos
2021-10-26 6:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-26 6:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-26 8:53 ` Heiko Stübner
2021-10-26 8:53 ` Heiko Stübner
2021-10-26 8:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-26 8:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-26 9:28 ` Heiko Stübner
2021-10-26 9:28 ` Heiko Stübner
2021-10-27 23:34 ` Atish Patra
2021-10-27 23:34 ` Atish Patra
2021-10-28 15:09 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-10-28 15:09 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-10-28 16:12 ` Heiko Stübner [this message]
2021-10-28 16:12 ` Heiko Stübner
2021-10-28 16:21 ` Anup Patel
2021-10-28 16:21 ` Anup Patel
2021-10-28 17:16 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-10-28 17:16 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2021-10-28 23:40 ` Atish Patra
2021-10-28 23:40 ` Atish Patra
2021-10-26 8:55 ` Atish Patra
2021-10-26 8:55 ` Atish Patra
2021-10-26 9:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-26 9:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-10-28 1:28 ` Atish Patra
2021-10-28 1:28 ` Atish Patra
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