[LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Marcelo Araujo]

Hi.

Why i receive this? 

this is not the first time i receive.

"Your membership in the mailing list LARTC has been disabled due to
excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
29-Apr-2005."

Can anybody tell me?

Thanks a lot.!

Marcelo
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Re: [LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Kenneth Kalmer]

On 5/6/05, Marcelo Araujo <chelupulus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> Why i receive this?
> 
> this is not the first time i receive.
> 
> "Your membership in the mailing list LARTC has been disabled due to
> excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> 29-Apr-2005."
> 
> Can anybody tell me?
> 
> Thanks a lot.!
> 
> Marcelo

I second, seems to be a gmail thing. I've contacted both the mailing
list owner and gmail about the issue and have had no response from
either.

Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
with gmail accounts?

Regards

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http://opensourcery.blogspot.com
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Re: [LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Andy Furniss]

Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
> On 5/6/05, Marcelo Araujo <chelupulus@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Hi.
>>
>>Why i receive this?
>>
>>this is not the first time i receive.
>>
>>"Your membership in the mailing list LARTC has been disabled due to
>>excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
>>29-Apr-2005."
>>
>>Can anybody tell me?
>>
>>Thanks a lot.!
>>
>>Marcelo
> 
> 
> I second, seems to be a gmail thing. I've contacted both the mailing
> list owner and gmail about the issue and have had no response from
> either.
> 
> Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
> with gmail accounts?

No - I got one of these on the 29th and am not using gmail.

Andy.


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Re: [LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Catalin Bucur]

Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
> 
> I second, seems to be a gmail thing. I've contacted both the mailing
> list owner and gmail about the issue and have had no response from
> either.
> 
> Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
> with gmail accounts?

I have the same situation here, so it isn't a gmail issue.

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NOC @ Genius Network SRL - Galati - Romania
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Re: [LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Charles Jones]

I get this about 2-5 times a month on my gmail account.  I've written
the list owner, and had no response yet.

Charles

On 5/6/05, Andy Furniss <andy.furniss@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
> > On 5/6/05, Marcelo Araujo <chelupulus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi.
> >>
> >>Why i receive this?
> >>
> >>this is not the first time i receive.
> >>
> >>"Your membership in the mailing list LARTC has been disabled due to
> >>excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> >>29-Apr-2005."
> >>
> >>Can anybody tell me?
> >>
> >>Thanks a lot.!
> >>
> >>Marcelo
> >
> >
> > I second, seems to be a gmail thing. I've contacted both the mailing
> > list owner and gmail about the issue and have had no response from
> > either.
> >
> > Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
> > with gmail accounts?
> 
> No - I got one of these on the 29th and am not using gmail.
> 
> Andy.
> 
> 
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Re: [LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Joe Nuts]

My guess is that the problem is related to mail servers that 'bounce'
back emails that have virus attachments. I get the notifications about
once a month it seems.
I assume that someone is sending an email with a virus attachment to
the list, the list tries to send the email to everyone (like it
should), some servers bounce it back to the sender (the list) for
having a virus attachment, and the list receives it as a bounce, and
adds it to a counter.
I might be completely off with this guess, but if that's the case, it
would seem to me that the only viable option is to put some logic in
the list 'bounce' engine to recognize an undeliverable bounce versus
an undeliverable due to a virus.
Just my thoughts.
-Joe

On 5/6/05, Andy Furniss <andy.furniss@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
> > On 5/6/05, Marcelo Araujo <chelupulus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi.
> >>
> >>Why i receive this?
> >>
> >>this is not the first time i receive.
> >>
> >>"Your membership in the mailing list LARTC has been disabled due to
> >>excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> >>29-Apr-2005."
> >>
> >>Can anybody tell me?
> >>
> >>Thanks a lot.!
> >>
> >>Marcelo
> >
> >
> > I second, seems to be a gmail thing. I've contacted both the mailing
> > list owner and gmail about the issue and have had no response from
> > either.
> >
> > Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
> > with gmail accounts?
> 
> No - I got one of these on the 29th and am not using gmail.
> 
> Andy.
> 
> 
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Re: [LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Henk Hesselink]

This is the problem.  I see it happening in my logfiles.
I sent the list maintainer a couple of mails about this
about 6 weeks ago, but never heard anything back.  I've
just resigned myself to reenabling my account every 2-3
weeks...

Henk

Joe Nuts wrote:
> My guess is that the problem is related to mail servers that 'bounce'
> back emails that have virus attachments. I get the notifications about
> once a month it seems.
> I assume that someone is sending an email with a virus attachment to
> the list, the list tries to send the email to everyone (like it
> should), some servers bounce it back to the sender (the list) for
> having a virus attachment, and the list receives it as a bounce, and
> adds it to a counter.
> I might be completely off with this guess, but if that's the case, it
> would seem to me that the only viable option is to put some logic in
> the list 'bounce' engine to recognize an undeliverable bounce versus
> an undeliverable due to a virus.
> Just my thoughts.
> -Joe
> 
> On 5/6/05, Andy Furniss <andy.furniss@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> 
>>Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/6/05, Marcelo Araujo <chelupulus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi.
>>>>
>>>>Why i receive this?
>>>>
>>>>this is not the first time i receive.
>>>>
>>>>"Your membership in the mailing list LARTC has been disabled due to
>>>>excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
>>>>29-Apr-2005."
>>>>
>>>>Can anybody tell me?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a lot.!
>>>>
>>>>Marcelo
>>>
>>>
>>>I second, seems to be a gmail thing. I've contacted both the mailing
>>>list owner and gmail about the issue and have had no response from
>>>either.
>>>
>>>Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
>>>with gmail accounts?
>>
>>No - I got one of these on the 29th and am not using gmail.
>>
>>Andy.
>>
>>
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Re: [LARTC] mailling list newbie question

[Andreas Klauer]

On Friday 06 May 2005 15:35, Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
> Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
> with gmail accounts?

It's junk on this list that gets bounced by mail providers when LARTC tries 
to send it to the list members. Here's an example:

<andreas.klauer@metamorpher.de>: host mailin.webmailer.de said:
    550 5.0.0 your mail contains a virus

I don't have any influence on the bouncing behaviour of my mail provider, 
all I can say is that it hardly ever bounces anything, because I do all 
the spam / junk filtering on my own machine.

Other mail accounts may have better spam / virus detection methods, and 
more aggressive bouncing behavior. LARTC is (ab)used to send out junk, 
your mail address doesn't like junk and bounces, LARTC doesn't like 
bounces and kicks you out.

The mailing lists needs to check for virus and spam before distributing it 
to all it's members.

Regards,
Andreas
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