From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rfc 2/3] virtio-net: support receive timestamp
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 04:17:29 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1881606476.40780520.1609233449300.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+FuTSffjFZGGwpMkpnTBbHHwnJN7if=0cVf0Des7Db5UFe0bw@mail.gmail.com>
----- Original Message -----
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 7:55 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 02:30:31PM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 12:29 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:22:32AM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > > From: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Add optional PTP hardware timestamp offload for virtio-net.
> > > > >
> > > > > Accurate RTT measurement requires timestamps close to the wire.
> > > > > Introduce virtio feature VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP. If negotiated, the
> > > > > virtio-net header is expanded with room for a timestamp. A host may
> > > > > pass receive timestamps for all or some packets. A timestamp is valid
> > > > > if non-zero.
> > > > >
> > > > > The timestamp straddles (virtual) hardware domains. Like PTP, use
> > > > > international atomic time (CLOCK_TAI) as global clock base. It is
> > > > > guest responsibility to sync with host, e.g., through kvm-clock.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > index f6881b5b77ee..0ffe2eeebd4a 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > @@ -57,6 +57,7 @@
> > > > > * Steering */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR 23 /* Set MAC address */
> > > > >
> > > > > +#define VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP 55 /* Host sends TAI
> > > > > receive time */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_TX_HASH 56 /* Guest sends hash report */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT 57 /* Supports hash report */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS 60 /* Supports RSS RX steering */
> > > > > @@ -182,6 +183,17 @@ struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash {
> > > > > };
> > > > > };
> > > > >
> > > > > +struct virtio_net_hdr_v12 {
> > > > > + struct virtio_net_hdr_v1 hdr;
> > > > > + struct {
> > > > > + __le32 value;
> > > > > + __le16 report;
> > > > > + __le16 flow_state;
> > > > > + } hash;
> > > > > + __virtio32 reserved;
> > > > > + __virtio64 tstamp;
> > > > > +};
> > > > > +
> > > > > #ifndef VIRTIO_NET_NO_LEGACY
> > > > > /* This header comes first in the scatter-gather list.
> > > > > * For legacy virtio, if VIRTIO_F_ANY_LAYOUT is not negotiated, it
> > > > > must
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So it looks like VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP should depend on both
> > > > VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP and VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT then?
> > >
> > > Do you mean VIRTIO_NET_F_TX_TSTAMP depends on VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP?
> > >
> > > I think if either is enabled we need to enable the extended layout.
> > > Regardless of whether TX_HASH or HASH_REPORT are enabled. If they are
> > > not, then those fields are ignored.
> >
> > I mean do we waste the 8 bytes for hash if TSTAMP is set but HASH is not?
> > If TSTAMP depends on HASH then point is moot.
>
> True, but the two features really are independent.
>
> I did consider using configurable metadata layout depending on
> features negotiated. If there are tons of optional extensions, that
> makes sense. But it is more complex and parsing error prone. With a
> handful of options each of a few bytes, that did not seem worth the
> cost to me at this point.
Consider NFV workloads(64B) packet. Most fields of current vnet header
is even a burdern. It might be the time to introduce configurable or
self-descriptive vnet header.
>
> And importantly, such a mode can always be added later as a separate
> VIRTIO_NET_F_PACKED_HEADER option.
What will do feature provide?
Thanks
>
> If anything, perhaps if we increase the virtio_net_hdr_* allocation,
> we should allocate some additional reserved space now? As each new
> size introduces quite a bit of boilerplate. Also, e.g., in qemu just
> to pass the sizes between virtio-net driver and vhost-net device.
>
>
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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rfc 2/3] virtio-net: support receive timestamp
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 04:17:29 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1881606476.40780520.1609233449300.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+FuTSffjFZGGwpMkpnTBbHHwnJN7if=0cVf0Des7Db5UFe0bw@mail.gmail.com>
----- Original Message -----
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 7:55 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 02:30:31PM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 12:29 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:22:32AM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > > From: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Add optional PTP hardware timestamp offload for virtio-net.
> > > > >
> > > > > Accurate RTT measurement requires timestamps close to the wire.
> > > > > Introduce virtio feature VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP. If negotiated, the
> > > > > virtio-net header is expanded with room for a timestamp. A host may
> > > > > pass receive timestamps for all or some packets. A timestamp is valid
> > > > > if non-zero.
> > > > >
> > > > > The timestamp straddles (virtual) hardware domains. Like PTP, use
> > > > > international atomic time (CLOCK_TAI) as global clock base. It is
> > > > > guest responsibility to sync with host, e.g., through kvm-clock.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > index f6881b5b77ee..0ffe2eeebd4a 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/virtio_net.h
> > > > > @@ -57,6 +57,7 @@
> > > > > * Steering */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR 23 /* Set MAC address */
> > > > >
> > > > > +#define VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP 55 /* Host sends TAI
> > > > > receive time */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_TX_HASH 56 /* Guest sends hash report */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT 57 /* Supports hash report */
> > > > > #define VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS 60 /* Supports RSS RX steering */
> > > > > @@ -182,6 +183,17 @@ struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash {
> > > > > };
> > > > > };
> > > > >
> > > > > +struct virtio_net_hdr_v12 {
> > > > > + struct virtio_net_hdr_v1 hdr;
> > > > > + struct {
> > > > > + __le32 value;
> > > > > + __le16 report;
> > > > > + __le16 flow_state;
> > > > > + } hash;
> > > > > + __virtio32 reserved;
> > > > > + __virtio64 tstamp;
> > > > > +};
> > > > > +
> > > > > #ifndef VIRTIO_NET_NO_LEGACY
> > > > > /* This header comes first in the scatter-gather list.
> > > > > * For legacy virtio, if VIRTIO_F_ANY_LAYOUT is not negotiated, it
> > > > > must
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So it looks like VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP should depend on both
> > > > VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP and VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT then?
> > >
> > > Do you mean VIRTIO_NET_F_TX_TSTAMP depends on VIRTIO_NET_F_RX_TSTAMP?
> > >
> > > I think if either is enabled we need to enable the extended layout.
> > > Regardless of whether TX_HASH or HASH_REPORT are enabled. If they are
> > > not, then those fields are ignored.
> >
> > I mean do we waste the 8 bytes for hash if TSTAMP is set but HASH is not?
> > If TSTAMP depends on HASH then point is moot.
>
> True, but the two features really are independent.
>
> I did consider using configurable metadata layout depending on
> features negotiated. If there are tons of optional extensions, that
> makes sense. But it is more complex and parsing error prone. With a
> handful of options each of a few bytes, that did not seem worth the
> cost to me at this point.
Consider NFV workloads(64B) packet. Most fields of current vnet header
is even a burdern. It might be the time to introduce configurable or
self-descriptive vnet header.
>
> And importantly, such a mode can always be added later as a separate
> VIRTIO_NET_F_PACKED_HEADER option.
What will do feature provide?
Thanks
>
> If anything, perhaps if we increase the virtio_net_hdr_* allocation,
> we should allocate some additional reserved space now? As each new
> size introduces quite a bit of boilerplate. Also, e.g., in qemu just
> to pass the sizes between virtio-net driver and vhost-net device.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-29 9:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-28 16:22 [PATCH rfc 0/3] virtio-net: add tx-hash, rx-tstamp and tx-tstamp Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` [PATCH rfc 1/3] virtio-net: support transmit hash report Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 16:47 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:47 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 17:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 17:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29 1:19 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 1:19 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 21:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 21:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29 1:23 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 1:23 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` [PATCH rfc 2/3] virtio-net: support receive timestamp Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 17:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 17:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 19:30 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 19:30 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 21:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 21:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29 1:05 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 1:05 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 9:17 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-12-29 9:17 ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 14:20 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 14:20 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30 8:38 ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30 8:38 ` Jason Wang
2020-12-28 22:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-29 0:57 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 0:57 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30 8:44 ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30 8:44 ` Jason Wang
2020-12-30 12:30 ` Richard Cochran
2021-02-02 13:05 ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:05 ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:05 ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 14:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 14:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 22:17 ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 22:17 ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 23:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 23:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 23:43 ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 23:43 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` [PATCH rfc 3/3] virtio-net: support transmit timestamp Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 16:22 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30 12:38 ` Richard Cochran
2020-12-30 15:25 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-30 15:25 ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-02 13:47 ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:47 ` kernel test robot
2021-02-02 13:47 ` kernel test robot
2020-12-28 17:29 ` [PATCH rfc 0/3] virtio-net: add tx-hash, rx-tstamp and tx-tstamp Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 17:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 19:51 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 19:51 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-28 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29 1:14 ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-12-29 1:14 ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-01-06 20:32 ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-01-06 20:32 ` Willem de Bruijn
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