From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Sylwester Nawrocki <sylvester.nawrocki@gmail.com>
Cc: linux@arm.linux.org.uk, mturquette@linaro.org,
Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, jiada_wang@mentor.com,
kyungmin.park@samsung.com, myungjoo.ham@samsung.com,
t.figa@samsung.com, g.liakhovetski@gmx.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, LMML <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] clk: clock deregistration support
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:26:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1918100.pYljUktTbF@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <525D9FC1.2040204@gmail.com>
Hi Sylwester,
On Tuesday 15 October 2013 22:04:17 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> (adding linux-media mailing list at Cc)
>
> On 09/25/2013 11:47 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 September 2013 23:38:44 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> [...]
>
> >> The only issue I found might be at the omap3isp driver, which provides
> >> clock to its sub-drivers and takes reference on the sub-driver modules.
> >> When sub-driver calls clk_get() all modules would get locked in memory,
> >> due to circular reference. One solution to that could be to pass NULL
> >> struct device pointer, as in the below patch.
> >
> > Doesn't that introduce race conditions ? If the sub-drivers require the
> > clock, they want to be sure that the clock won't disappear beyond their
> > backs. I agree that the circular dependency needs to be solved somehow,
> > but we probably need a more generic solution. The problem will become
> > more widespread in the future with DT-based device instantiation in both
> > V4L2 and KMS.
>
> I'm wondering whether subsystems and drivers itself should be written so
> they deal with such dependencies they are aware of.
>
> There is similar situation in the regulator API, regulator_get() simply
> takes a reference on a module providing the regulator object.
>
> Before a "more generic solution" is available, what do you think about
> keeping obtaining a reference on a clock provider module in clk_get() and
> doing clk_get(), clk_prepare_enable(), ..., clk_unprepare_disable(),
> clk_put() in sub-driver whenever a clock is actively used, to avoid
> permanent circular reference ?
That's a workaround I can live with in the short term, as long as we work on a
generic solution to this problem. It will bite us back in the not too distant
future if we pretend to forget about it.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] clk: clock deregistration support
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:26:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1918100.pYljUktTbF@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <525D9FC1.2040204@gmail.com>
Hi Sylwester,
On Tuesday 15 October 2013 22:04:17 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> (adding linux-media mailing list at Cc)
>
> On 09/25/2013 11:47 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 September 2013 23:38:44 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> [...]
>
> >> The only issue I found might be at the omap3isp driver, which provides
> >> clock to its sub-drivers and takes reference on the sub-driver modules.
> >> When sub-driver calls clk_get() all modules would get locked in memory,
> >> due to circular reference. One solution to that could be to pass NULL
> >> struct device pointer, as in the below patch.
> >
> > Doesn't that introduce race conditions ? If the sub-drivers require the
> > clock, they want to be sure that the clock won't disappear beyond their
> > backs. I agree that the circular dependency needs to be solved somehow,
> > but we probably need a more generic solution. The problem will become
> > more widespread in the future with DT-based device instantiation in both
> > V4L2 and KMS.
>
> I'm wondering whether subsystems and drivers itself should be written so
> they deal with such dependencies they are aware of.
>
> There is similar situation in the regulator API, regulator_get() simply
> takes a reference on a module providing the regulator object.
>
> Before a "more generic solution" is available, what do you think about
> keeping obtaining a reference on a clock provider module in clk_get() and
> doing clk_get(), clk_prepare_enable(), ..., clk_unprepare_disable(),
> clk_put() in sub-driver whenever a clock is actively used, to avoid
> permanent circular reference ?
That's a workaround I can live with in the short term, as long as we work on a
generic solution to this problem. It will bite us back in the not too distant
future if we pretend to forget about it.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com (Laurent Pinchart)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v6 0/5] clk: clock deregistration support
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:26:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1918100.pYljUktTbF@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <525D9FC1.2040204@gmail.com>
Hi Sylwester,
On Tuesday 15 October 2013 22:04:17 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> (adding linux-media mailing list at Cc)
>
> On 09/25/2013 11:47 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tuesday 24 September 2013 23:38:44 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> [...]
>
> >> The only issue I found might be at the omap3isp driver, which provides
> >> clock to its sub-drivers and takes reference on the sub-driver modules.
> >> When sub-driver calls clk_get() all modules would get locked in memory,
> >> due to circular reference. One solution to that could be to pass NULL
> >> struct device pointer, as in the below patch.
> >
> > Doesn't that introduce race conditions ? If the sub-drivers require the
> > clock, they want to be sure that the clock won't disappear beyond their
> > backs. I agree that the circular dependency needs to be solved somehow,
> > but we probably need a more generic solution. The problem will become
> > more widespread in the future with DT-based device instantiation in both
> > V4L2 and KMS.
>
> I'm wondering whether subsystems and drivers itself should be written so
> they deal with such dependencies they are aware of.
>
> There is similar situation in the regulator API, regulator_get() simply
> takes a reference on a module providing the regulator object.
>
> Before a "more generic solution" is available, what do you think about
> keeping obtaining a reference on a clock provider module in clk_get() and
> doing clk_get(), clk_prepare_enable(), ..., clk_unprepare_disable(),
> clk_put() in sub-driver whenever a clock is actively used, to avoid
> permanent circular reference ?
That's a workaround I can live with in the short term, as long as we work on a
generic solution to this problem. It will bite us back in the not too distant
future if we pretend to forget about it.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-28 20:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-30 14:53 [PATCH v6 0/5] clk: clock deregistration support Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] clk: Provide not locked variant of of_clk_get_from_provider() Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] clkdev: Fix race condition in clock lookup from device tree Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] clk: Add common __clk_get(), __clk_put() implementations Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] clk: Assign module owner of a clock being registered Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] clk: Implement clk_unregister Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-08-30 14:53 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-04 15:43 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-04 15:43 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-04 15:43 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-24 21:38 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] clk: clock deregistration support Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-24 21:38 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-24 21:38 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-25 9:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-25 9:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-25 9:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-25 20:51 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-25 20:51 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-09-25 20:51 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-28 20:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 20:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 20:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-15 20:04 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-15 20:04 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-15 20:04 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-28 19:54 ` Mike Turquette
2013-10-28 19:54 ` Mike Turquette
2013-10-28 19:54 ` Mike Turquette
2013-10-28 21:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 21:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 21:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 20:26 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2013-10-28 20:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 20:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-02 21:40 ` Mike Turquette
2013-10-02 21:40 ` Mike Turquette
2013-10-02 21:40 ` Mike Turquette
2013-10-28 21:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 21:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-28 21:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-29 23:38 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-29 23:38 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-29 23:38 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
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