all in the family

all in the family

[Mike Shaver]

Looks like I may be getting a machine here to see if we can migrate
some of our non-Oracle machines to Linux/SPARC.

Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
cross-compiler?

In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures in
the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy).  Maybe I'll steal the
PowerMac too... =)

Mike

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Re: all in the family

[David S. Miller]

   From: Mike Shaver <shaver@neon.ingenia.ca>
   Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:11:01 -0400 (EDT)

   Looks like I may be getting a machine here to see if we can migrate
   some of our non-Oracle machines to Linux/SPARC.

   Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
   cross-compiler?

It should be straight forward, 32-bit to 32-bit crosses under gcc work
flawlessly right out of the box for everything I've ever tried.  It's
when you cross from 32-bit to 64-bit that you may hit a bug or two.

   In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures
   in the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy).  Maybe I'll
   steal the PowerMac too... =)

ELKS, that is cheating ;-)

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Re: all in the family

[Ralf Baechle]

>    Looks like I may be getting a machine here to see if we can migrate
>    some of our non-Oracle machines to Linux/SPARC.
> 
>    Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
>    cross-compiler?
> 
> It should be straight forward, 32-bit to 32-bit crosses under gcc work
> flawlessly right out of the box for everything I've ever tried.  It's
> when you cross from 32-bit to 64-bit that you may hit a bug or two.

I've got the necessary patches to make the binutils and GCC work as
Linux/Alpha -> Linux/MIPS crosscompiler.  Mike, if you need them remind
me to send them if you need them.

>    In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures
>    in the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy).  Maybe I'll
>    steal the PowerMac too... =)
> 
> ELKS, that is cheating ;-)

:-)

  Ralf

Re: all in the family

[Ralf Baechle]

>    Looks like I may be getting a machine here to see if we can migrate
>    some of our non-Oracle machines to Linux/SPARC.
> 
>    Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
>    cross-compiler?
> 
> It should be straight forward, 32-bit to 32-bit crosses under gcc work
> flawlessly right out of the box for everything I've ever tried.  It's
> when you cross from 32-bit to 64-bit that you may hit a bug or two.

I've got the necessary patches to make the binutils and GCC work as
Linux/Alpha -> Linux/MIPS crosscompiler.  Mike, if you need them remind
me to send them if you need them.

>    In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures
>    in the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy).  Maybe I'll
>    steal the PowerMac too... =)
> 
> ELKS, that is cheating ;-)

:-)

  Ralf

Re: all in the family

[Mike Shaver]

Thus spake David S. Miller:
> ELKS, that is cheating ;-)

Yeah, but Alan insists on working on it. =)

Mike

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Re: all in the family

[Mike Shaver]

Thus spake David S. Miller:
> ELKS, that is cheating ;-)

Yeah, but Alan insists on working on it. =)

Mike

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Re: all in the family

[Miguel de Icaza]

> Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
> cross-compiler?

Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC?   You just need to
run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you
will get your native cross-compiler in a second.

You need to configure both binutils and gcc like this.


> In related news, we'll then have Linux running on 5 architectures in
> the same room (Intel, Alpha, SPARC, ELKS, Indy).  Maybe I'll steal the
> PowerMac too... =)

:-)

Miguel.

Re: all in the family

[Mike Shaver]

Thus spake Miguel de Icaza:
> > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
> > cross-compiler?
> 
> Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC?   You just need to
> run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you
> will get your native cross-compiler in a second.

I was under the impression that building GCC for the Linux/SGI target
was non-trivial.  Ralf made mention of some patches, and since there
are binaries available for Solaris...

If GCC can support it with a --target choice, that'll be great.

Mike

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Re: all in the family

[Mike Shaver]

Thus spake Miguel de Icaza:
> > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
> > cross-compiler?
> 
> Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC?   You just need to
> run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you
> will get your native cross-compiler in a second.

I was under the impression that building GCC for the Linux/SGI target
was non-trivial.  Ralf made mention of some patches, and since there
are binaries available for Solaris...

If GCC can support it with a --target choice, that'll be great.

Mike

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Re: all in the family

[Ralf Baechle]

Hi,

> Thus spake Miguel de Icaza:
> > > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
> > > cross-compiler?
> > 
> > Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC?   You just need to
> > run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you
> > will get your native cross-compiler in a second.
> 
> I was under the impression that building GCC for the Linux/SGI target
> was non-trivial.  Ralf made mention of some patches, and since there
> are binaries available for Solaris...
> 
> If GCC can support it with a --target choice, that'll be great.

(I think you're confusing host and target.  If you want IRIX to generate
code for Linux the IRIX is the host and Linux the target os).

GCC does that as well as the binutils.  Truely pervert people can even
build GCC / binutils on a host of type a to run on type b and generate
code for type c.  I did that once or twice to build the first native
compiler for Linux/MIPS.

Try something like:

  ./configure --prefix=/usr --target=mips-linux

to configure binutils and GCC.

  Ralf

Re: all in the family

[Ralf Baechle]

Hi,

> Thus spake Miguel de Icaza:
> > > Anyone know if the emulation is up to hosting the Linux/Indy
> > > cross-compiler?
> > 
> > Why do you need the emulation for on Linux/SPARC?   You just need to
> > run configure on Linux/SPARC with the proper --target option and you
> > will get your native cross-compiler in a second.
> 
> I was under the impression that building GCC for the Linux/SGI target
> was non-trivial.  Ralf made mention of some patches, and since there
> are binaries available for Solaris...
> 
> If GCC can support it with a --target choice, that'll be great.

(I think you're confusing host and target.  If you want IRIX to generate
code for Linux the IRIX is the host and Linux the target os).

GCC does that as well as the binutils.  Truely pervert people can even
build GCC / binutils on a host of type a to run on type b and generate
code for type c.  I did that once or twice to build the first native
compiler for Linux/MIPS.

Try something like:

  ./configure --prefix=/usr --target=mips-linux

to configure binutils and GCC.

  Ralf

Re: all in the family

[Mike Shaver]

Thus spake Ralf Baechle:
> (I think you're confusing host and target.

I think you're right...

Mike
(how embarrassing)

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Re: all in the family

[Mike Shaver]

Thus spake Ralf Baechle:
> (I think you're confusing host and target.

I think you're right...

Mike
(how embarrassing)

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