From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon)
To: linux@yon.engr.sgi.com
Subject: hardware independent hinv
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199705281517.IAA10342@yon.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
Just forwarding since it sounds someone hopes that Linux/MIPS
will some day have a HW independent hinv... - Ariel
----- Forwarded message from Dave Olson -----
>From olson@anchor Mon May 12 13:50:21 1997
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:50:18 -0700
From: olson@anchor (Dave Olson)
Message-Id: <199705122050.NAA26767@anchor.engr.sgi.com>
To: olson@anchor (Dave Olson), scotth@sgi.com
Subject: Re: missing machfile
Cc: swmgr@swmgr, breyer@swmgr, ariel@cthulhu
References: <199705121525.IAA23143@swmgr.engr.sgi.com>
<199705121714.KAA23773@anchor.engr.sgi.com>
<199705121854.LAA18312@anchor.engr.sgi.com>
| I would assume that hinv is hardware-dependent, because of the
| mapping issues? Or is it table driven off of an analogue of the machtab?
Still all compiled in. Bug/rfe open for years now about making it table
driven.
| Unfortunately, nothing better is generally available across
| platforms and releases.
Yes, and that's something that would be nice to fix. Maybe linux will
do it, and we can copy them.
| D> Lots, for any non-trivial app. They don't have to, but often want to.
|
| ??? Non-trivial as in "big and powerful", or as in "gets close to
| the hardware"? I would argue that emacs and perl both fit the
Both/either. Not all big apps, of course.
| I was looking at the options to uname, specifically "-p". Based
| upon the man page, shouldn't `uname -p` return "mips3" instead of
| "mips" for my IP22? That is one obvious meaning for:
Yes, but then you break even more of the configure scripts. Again,
a no-win situation.
| I was just curious is there was somehow we could make life easier
| for configure scripts to port software for IRIX... On the other
| hand, we generally only get bad comments about /bin/install, and at
| least we *don't* get comments like:
| # AIX cpp loses on an empty file, so make sure it contains at least a newline.
Using cpp is a horrible solution...
| It is hard to add functionality without breaking stuff.
A programmer's lament, if I ever heard one!
Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics Guru and busybody at large
http://reality.sgi.com/olson olson@sgi.com
----- End of forwarded message from Dave Olson -----
--
Peace, Ariel
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From: ariel@yon.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon)
To: linux@yon.engr.sgi.com
Subject: hardware independent hinv
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199705281517.IAA10342@yon.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19970528151744.t9RnE26-zsJ7vtQ3ANaYomQeKVzHYgSt1ypAPkcZ4mI@z> (raw)
Just forwarding since it sounds someone hopes that Linux/MIPS
will some day have a HW independent hinv... - Ariel
----- Forwarded message from Dave Olson -----
From olson@anchor Mon May 12 13:50:21 1997
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:50:18 -0700
From: olson@anchor (Dave Olson)
Message-Id: <199705122050.NAA26767@anchor.engr.sgi.com>
To: olson@anchor (Dave Olson), scotth@sgi.com
Subject: Re: missing machfile
Cc: swmgr@swmgr, breyer@swmgr, ariel@cthulhu
References: <199705121525.IAA23143@swmgr.engr.sgi.com>
<199705121714.KAA23773@anchor.engr.sgi.com>
<199705121854.LAA18312@anchor.engr.sgi.com>
| I would assume that hinv is hardware-dependent, because of the
| mapping issues? Or is it table driven off of an analogue of the machtab?
Still all compiled in. Bug/rfe open for years now about making it table
driven.
| Unfortunately, nothing better is generally available across
| platforms and releases.
Yes, and that's something that would be nice to fix. Maybe linux will
do it, and we can copy them.
| D> Lots, for any non-trivial app. They don't have to, but often want to.
|
| ??? Non-trivial as in "big and powerful", or as in "gets close to
| the hardware"? I would argue that emacs and perl both fit the
Both/either. Not all big apps, of course.
| I was looking at the options to uname, specifically "-p". Based
| upon the man page, shouldn't `uname -p` return "mips3" instead of
| "mips" for my IP22? That is one obvious meaning for:
Yes, but then you break even more of the configure scripts. Again,
a no-win situation.
| I was just curious is there was somehow we could make life easier
| for configure scripts to port software for IRIX... On the other
| hand, we generally only get bad comments about /bin/install, and at
| least we *don't* get comments like:
| # AIX cpp loses on an empty file, so make sure it contains at least a newline.
Using cpp is a horrible solution...
| It is hard to add functionality without breaking stuff.
A programmer's lament, if I ever heard one!
Dave Olson, Silicon Graphics Guru and busybody at large
http://reality.sgi.com/olson olson@sgi.com
----- End of forwarded message from Dave Olson -----
--
Peace, Ariel
next reply other threads:[~1997-05-28 15:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-05-28 15:17 Ariel Faigon [this message]
1997-05-28 15:17 ` hardware independent hinv Ariel Faigon
1997-05-28 15:35 ` Mike Shaver
1997-05-28 17:42 ` Miguel de Icaza
1997-05-28 18:18 ` David S. Miller
1997-05-28 19:49 ` Miguel de Icaza
1997-05-30 7:14 ` Martin Knoblauch
1997-05-28 16:03 ` Ralf Baechle
1997-06-12 1:10 ` My first project on the Indy Miguel de Icaza
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-05-28 19:12 hardware independent hinv Larry McVoy
1997-05-28 19:12 ` Larry McVoy
1997-05-28 19:19 ` Mike Shaver
1997-05-28 19:19 ` Mike Shaver
1997-05-29 2:26 Dave Olson
1997-05-29 2:26 ` Dave Olson
1997-05-30 9:56 ` Raj Mathur
1997-05-30 9:56 ` Raj Mathur
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