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* What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
@ 1999-02-02 14:51 Alexander Graefe
  1999-02-02 18:20 ` Chad Carlin
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Graefe @ 1999-02-02 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

Hi.

I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
something about irq request handler.

I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.

What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?

Bye,
	LeX, determined to get Linux on there :)
-- 
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-02 14:51 What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ? Alexander Graefe
@ 1999-02-02 18:20 ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-02 18:30   ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
  1999-02-02 20:26   ` Jonas Vis
  1999-02-02 18:21 ` Alex deVries
  1999-02-03  3:39 ` ralf
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chad Carlin @ 1999-02-02 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Graefe; +Cc: linux

Alexander,

I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
Will try the boot later tonight.

I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.

Chad

Alexander Graefe wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> something about irq request handler.
>
> I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
>
> What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?
>
> Bye,
>         LeX, determined to get Linux on there :)
> --
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

--
           -----------------------------------------------------
            Chad Carlin                          Special Systems
            Silicon Graphics Inc.                   972.205.5911
            Pager 888.754.1597          VMail 800.414.7994 X5344
            chad@sgi.com             http://reality.sgi.com/chad
           -----------------------------------------------------
        "flying through hyper space ain't like dusting crops, boy"

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-02 14:51 What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ? Alexander Graefe
  1999-02-02 18:20 ` Chad Carlin
@ 1999-02-02 18:21 ` Alex deVries
  1999-02-03  3:39 ` ralf
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Alex deVries @ 1999-02-02 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Graefe; +Cc: linux


On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Alexander Graefe wrote:
> I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> something about irq request handler.
> I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.

I should rebuild that kernel to have root nfs in it, although my kernel
tree's currently wrapped up with gross graphics.o modularization stuff.

I'll see what I can do.

- Alex

-- 
Alex deVries, puffin on LinuxNet.
I know exactly what I want in life.

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-02 18:20 ` Chad Carlin
@ 1999-02-02 18:30   ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
  1999-02-02 19:12     ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-03  3:42     ` ralf
  1999-02-02 20:26   ` Jonas Vis
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Shrijeet Mukherjee @ 1999-02-02 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: chad; +Cc: Alexander Graefe, linux

On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:

->Alexander,
->
->I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
->another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
->should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
->Will try the boot later tonight.
->
->I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
->gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.
->

no siree, me too .. just that I have not gotten around to reporting on my
attempts ..

yeah the 2.1.131 kernel seemed to detect my SCSI devices and just stop ..
not being NFS bootable would explain that ..

Shrijeet

he who one day will find the time to build a cross-compile environment
:-() 

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-02 18:30   ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
@ 1999-02-02 19:12     ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-03  3:42     ` ralf
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chad Carlin @ 1999-02-02 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shrijeet Mukherjee; +Cc: chad, Alexander Graefe, linux

Shrijeet,

Have you ever gotten your R4400 to boot *any* Linux kernel? I was starting
think that through some strange conspiracy that the entire linux-mips
community has R4600 CPUs.

As long as we are on the subject of hardware..... There are many different
rev levels of gfx, cpu and prom for Indy. Has anyone ever tracked a
particular problem to harware revision levels?

Chad


Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:
>
> ->Alexander,
> ->
> ->I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
> ->another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
> ->should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
> ->Will try the boot later tonight.
> ->
> ->I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
> ->gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.
> ->
>
> no siree, me too .. just that I have not gotten around to reporting on my
> attempts ..
>
> yeah the 2.1.131 kernel seemed to detect my SCSI devices and just stop ..
> not being NFS bootable would explain that ..
>
> Shrijeet
>
> he who one day will find the time to build a cross-compile environment
> :-()

--
           -----------------------------------------------------
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            Silicon Graphics Inc.                   972.205.5911
            Pager 888.754.1597          VMail 800.414.7994 X5344
            chad@sgi.com             http://reality.sgi.com/chad
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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-02 18:20 ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-02 18:30   ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
@ 1999-02-02 20:26   ` Jonas Vis
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Jonas Vis @ 1999-02-02 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chad Carlin; +Cc: Alexander Graefe, linux

Hi

I`m having the same problem on my Indy(R4400). The kernel boots ok, but
after the remote root-nfs is mounted it dies with something about irq
request handler. I`m using a PC running Linux to boot from.


//Jonas

On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Chad Carlin wrote:

> Alexander,
> 
> I'm having similar problems with my R4400. I was trying to boot from
> another Indy. Now I went and got a PC and loaded linux on it. This
> should put my config as much like everyone elses as I can make it.
> Will try the boot later tonight.
> 
> I've asked this list for anyone else running linux on an R4400. I've
> gotten no responses. You and I may be the only ones.
> 
> Chad
> 
> Alexander Graefe wrote:
> 
> > Hi.
> >
> > I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> > remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> > something about irq request handler.
> >
> > I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> > that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
> >
> > What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?
> >
> > Bye,
> >         LeX, determined to get Linux on there :)
> > --
> > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
> 
> --
>            -----------------------------------------------------
>             Chad Carlin                          Special Systems
>             Silicon Graphics Inc.                   972.205.5911
>             Pager 888.754.1597          VMail 800.414.7994 X5344
>             chad@sgi.com             http://reality.sgi.com/chad
>            -----------------------------------------------------
>         "flying through hyper space ain't like dusting crops, boy"
> 
> 
> 

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-02 14:51 What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ? Alexander Graefe
  1999-02-02 18:20 ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-02 18:21 ` Alex deVries
@ 1999-02-03  3:39 ` ralf
  1999-02-03 17:37   ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-04 14:46   ` Alexander Graefe
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1999-02-03  3:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Graefe, linux

On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:

> I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> something about irq request handler.

Ouch.  It was actually supposed to work on Indys, regardless of the processor
type.  Since it's no longer working things must somewhow got broken again.
I'll try to fix it but it's going to be hairy since I don't have an R4400SC
processor module.

> I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
> 
> What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?

Can you send me:

 - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
   Aiee message is important.
 - the output of the hinv command.  Hinv is an IRIX command.

> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

In nomeni patrii et filiae et spiritus pinguini ;-)

  Ralf

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-02 18:30   ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
  1999-02-02 19:12     ` Chad Carlin
@ 1999-02-03  3:42     ` ralf
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1999-02-03  3:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shrijeet Mukherjee, chad; +Cc: Alexander Graefe, linux

On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 10:30:39AM -0800, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote:

> yeah the 2.1.131 kernel seemed to detect my SCSI devices and just stop ..
> not being NFS bootable would explain that ..

It should not just stop but print a message like ``Cannot mount root
filesystem''.

  Ralf

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-03  3:39 ` ralf
@ 1999-02-03 17:37   ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-04 14:46   ` Alexander Graefe
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chad Carlin @ 1999-02-03 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux

Ralf,

Got a chance to try again last night using a i686 as a bootserver. I got the
same aieee message. Will get you my hinv and my particular register dump.

Chad


ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
>
> > I got as far as booting Linux via bootp on my Indy, but after the
> > remote root-fs is mounted, the kernel dies with an "Aieee" and
> > something about irq request handler.
>
> Ouch.  It was actually supposed to work on Indys, regardless of the processor
> type.  Since it's no longer working things must somewhow got broken again.
> I'll try to fix it but it's going to be hairy since I don't have an R4400SC
> processor module.
>
> > I tried booting with the 2.1.131-Kernel from ftp.linux.sgi.com, but
> > that one doesn't try to mount the root-fs via NFS.
> >
> > What kernel should I use to actually see a prompt on my Indy ?
>
> Can you send me:
>
>  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
>    Aiee message is important.
>  - the output of the hinv command.  Hinv is an IRIX command.
>
> > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
>
> In nomeni patrii et filiae et spiritus pinguini ;-)
>
>   Ralf

--
           -----------------------------------------------------
            Chad Carlin                          Special Systems
            Silicon Graphics Inc.                   972.205.5911
            Pager 888.754.1597          VMail 800.414.7994 X5344
            chad@sgi.com             http://reality.sgi.com/chad
           -----------------------------------------------------
        "flying through hyper space ain't like dusting crops, boy"

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-03  3:39 ` ralf
  1999-02-03 17:37   ` Chad Carlin
@ 1999-02-04 14:46   ` Alexander Graefe
  1999-02-05  2:48     ` ralf
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Graefe @ 1999-02-04 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf, linux

On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

>  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
>    Aiee message is important.

kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)
---snip---
VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem)
Adv: done running setup()
Freeing unused kernel memory: 44k freed
page fault from irq handler: 0000
$0 : 00000000 88180000 0000062d 00000000
$4 : 00000000 1004fc00 00000000 00000000
$8 : 00000000 00000000 00000000 abf3f822
$12: 6f2e7072 8bf3d87c 8bf3d800 00000000
$16: 8bf4f000 8bf3b220 0000062d 8815238c
$20: abf4f040 bfb94000 00000000 bfbd4000
$24: 00000000 8bf85b58
$28: 88008000 88009d90 0000000e 880e3f38
epc   : 880e3e74
Status: 1004fc02
Cause : 00000008
Aiee, killing interrupt handler.
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing
---snip---

And then the machine stops dead.

>  - the output of the hinv command.  Hinv is an IRIX command.

Output from hinv:
---snip---
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0
1 200 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4000 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 6.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
Main memory size: 64 Mbytes
Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D
Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Graphics board: Indy 8-bit
Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected
---snip---

Bye,
	LeX
-- 
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-04 14:46   ` Alexander Graefe
@ 1999-02-05  2:48     ` ralf
  1999-02-05  4:51       ` Alexander Graefe
                         ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: ralf @ 1999-02-05  2:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Graefe, linux

On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 03:46:37PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> 
> >  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
> >    Aiee message is important.
> 
> kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)

2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
use a newer kernel.

  Ralf

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-05  2:48     ` ralf
@ 1999-02-05  4:51       ` Alexander Graefe
  1999-02-05 21:26         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
  1999-02-05 21:42       ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-12  3:04       ` Chad Carlin
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Graefe @ 1999-02-05  4:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf, linux

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 03:48:21AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> 2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
> which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
> use a newer kernel.

I tried that, but .131 doesn't support nfs-root. It keeps failing to
mount the root device.
Can I bake my own kernel for the Indy on my PC with the right compiler
?

Bye,
	LeX

-- 
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-05  4:51       ` Alexander Graefe
@ 1999-02-05 21:26         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Bogendoerfer @ 1999-02-05 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Graefe, ralf, linux

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 05:51:40AM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
> I tried that, but .131 doesn't support nfs-root. It keeps failing to
> mount the root device.

I've uploaded my current development kernel with support for bootp
and nfs-root compiled it:

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990205.gz

BTW I want to make sure, that the kernel also boots headless (Challange S
simulation), can I just remove the newport from the Indy ?

> Can I bake my own kernel for the Indy on my PC with the right compiler ?

sure, but be prepared to do some hacking. There is no out of the box
cross compiling stuff.

Thomas.

-- 
   This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-|
It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^)
                                        [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel]

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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-05  2:48     ` ralf
  1999-02-05  4:51       ` Alexander Graefe
@ 1999-02-05 21:42       ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-12  3:04       ` Chad Carlin
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chad Carlin @ 1999-02-05 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf; +Cc: Alexander Graefe, linux

Does this mean that I should be able to use .131 kernel in conjunction with a
local e2fs filesystem with the contents of root-be-0.04.cpio installed on it?
And it should work?

Chad


ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 03:46:37PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> >
> > >  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
> > >    Aiee message is important.
> >
> > kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)
>
> 2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
> which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
> use a newer kernel.
>
>   Ralf

--
           -----------------------------------------------------
            Chad Carlin                          Special Systems
            Silicon Graphics Inc.                   972.205.5911
            Pager 888.754.1597          VMail 800.414.7994 X5344
            chad@sgi.com             http://reality.sgi.com/chad
           -----------------------------------------------------
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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-05  2:48     ` ralf
  1999-02-05  4:51       ` Alexander Graefe
  1999-02-05 21:42       ` Chad Carlin
@ 1999-02-12  3:04       ` Chad Carlin
  1999-02-12 10:16         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Chad Carlin @ 1999-02-12  3:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ralf, Alexander Graefe, adevries; +Cc: linux

Ralf and all,

Now I'm in a jam. I can't use these instructions:

irix-indy #./mke2fs drive
irix-indy #./installer drive
  cjwsh> MAKEDEV
  cjwsh> cpio root-be-0.04.cpio
  [piles of cpio extraction information]
  cjwsh> exit
  [ a moderately lengthy pause, and possibly a bus error -- don't worry
    about it ]
 irix-indy #

to make the root filesystem on the indy because I can't make the device files
with proper major|minor numbers from the installer utility from IRIX. Since
nfsroot directive does not work on .131 and R4400 doesn't work on any other
kernels, I think I'm up against a brick wall. Anyone have any ideas.

Any chance of fixing nfsroot in the .131 kernel? I think that might get me
there.

Bootless,
Chad

ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 03:46:37PM +0100, Alexander Graefe wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 04:39:51AM +0100, ralf@uni-koblenz.de wrote:
> >
> > >  - the exact screen output.  Especially the register dump following the
> > >    Aiee message is important.
> >
> > kernel 2.1.100 (the one from the HardHat.tgz)
>
> 2.1.100 is known to fail on R4400.  This is supposed to be fixed in .131
> which is why I'm worried about the other bug report.  Your case is obvious -
> use a newer kernel.
>
>   Ralf

--
           -----------------------------------------------------
            Chad Carlin                          Special Systems
            Silicon Graphics Inc.                   972.205.5911
            Pager 888.754.1597          VMail 800.414.7994 X5344
            chad@sgi.com             http://reality.sgi.com/chad
           -----------------------------------------------------
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* Re: What kernel to use to install RH on a R4400 ?
  1999-02-12  3:04       ` Chad Carlin
@ 1999-02-12 10:16         ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Bogendoerfer @ 1999-02-12 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: chad, ralf, Alexander Graefe, adevries; +Cc: linux

On Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 09:04:58PM -0600, Chad Carlin wrote:
> Any chance of fixing nfsroot in the .131 kernel? I think that might get me
> there.

looks like someone is eating my emails to this list.

Please try:

ftp://ftp.linux.sgi.com/pub/linux/mips/test/vmlinux-indy-990212.gz

Thomas.

-- 
   This device has completely bogus header. Compaq scores again :-|
It's a host bridge, but it should be called ghost bridge instead ;^)
                                        [Martin `MJ' Mares on linux-kernel]

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1999-02-02 19:12     ` Chad Carlin
1999-02-03  3:42     ` ralf
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1999-02-02 18:21 ` Alex deVries
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