[parisc-linux] unsatisfied symbols

[parisc-linux] unsatisfied symbols

[Ingo Matthaes]

Hi,

it is not possible to compile the latest CVS-Kernels. I tried 
various configurations, but I still get unsatisfied symbol __delay.
Is anybody out there, who compiles the actual sources succesfully ?
make menuconfig seems to be broken too (since 4 weeks)

  Ingo
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Ingo Matthaes
HP-UX Net und Linux Support
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Re: [parisc-linux] unsatisfied symbols

[Steven A. DuChene]

On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 11:40:03AM +0200, Ingo Matthaes wrote:
> it is not possible to compile the latest CVS-Kernels. I tried 
> various configurations, but I still get unsatisfied symbol __delay.
> Is anybody out there, who compiles the actual sources succesfully ?
> make menuconfig seems to be broken too (since 4 weeks)
> 

Ingo:
When you say make menuconfig seems to be broken, what exactly doesn't
work? As I understand the current method for compiling kernels takes
place using HP-UX with gcc. Does it also include ncurses or is the
group attempting to use the native HP-UX curses? If the later then
understand that HP-UX has at last count at least three or four
different curses libraries. Some of them are badly broken while others
are only semi broken. My advice is to get ncurses and use it instead
of the various native curses implementations.

If the make menuconfig problem isn't a problem with the curses
implementation on HP-UX I could be barking up the wrong tree here.
-- 
Steven A. DuChene   Linux Fan!  http://www.mindspring.com/~sduchene

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's
too dark to read.
                -- Groucho Marx

Re: [parisc-linux] unsatisfied symbols

[Philipp Rumpf]

> When you say make menuconfig seems to be broken, what exactly doesn't
> work? As I understand the current method for compiling kernels takes

our config.in was broken and Ingo sent a patch that corrected the problem.

Re: [parisc-linux] unsatisfied symbols

[Helge Deller]

Am Tue, 03 Aug 1999 schrieb Ingo Matthaes:
> Hi,
> 
> it is not possible to compile the latest CVS-Kernels. I tried 
> various configurations, but I still get unsatisfied symbol __delay.
> Is anybody out there, who compiles the actual sources succesfully ?
> make menuconfig seems to be broken too (since 4 weeks)
> 
>   Ingo

Hi Ingo.

The unsatisfied symbol __delay was caused by the inclusion of pdc_cons.c by the
bootloader. I fixed it some minutes ago in the cvs.
The actual kernel from cvs compiles, links and boots (!!) now cleanly (I just
tried it), if you add the line  
extern pgd_t swapper_pg_dir[1024];
to the file pgtable.h. I didn´t wanted to fix that, since I think, that Philipp
is actually working on that code....

NB: If you want faster screen-output, then remove the delay() in pdc_cons.c.

Ciao,
Helge.

Re: [parisc-linux] unsatisfied symbols

[Ingo Matthaes]

> Hi Ingo.
> 
> The unsatisfied symbol __delay was caused by the inclusion of pdc_cons.c by the
> bootloader. I fixed it some minutes ago in the cvs.
> The actual kernel from cvs compiles, links and boots (!!) now cleanly (I just
> tried it), if you add the line  
> extern pgd_t swapper_pg_dir[1024];
> to the file pgtable.h. I didn´t wanted to fix that, since I think, that Philipp

O.k. it works fine on my 715/33. I will try it on some 712 and, if available,
on a a-class



> is actually working on that code....
> 
> NB: If you want faster screen-output, then remove the delay() in pdc_cons.c.

Why should I remove that classic feeling :-)

  Ingo


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Ingo Matthaes
HP-UX Net und Linux Support
HP Support Center Ratingen

[parisc-linux] Pa-risc Linux timetables?

[Hannu Martikka]

Hi!

I just noticed that Linus is doing feature freeze for 2.4 in few weeks.
That raised couple of questions.

Do we have any estimate on parisc/linux timetables? When is the pa-risc
Linux going to be "released"? Do we target it to 2.5 or 2.6? 

We are now based on 2.2.1. How big effort would be required to merge
pa-risc linux (2.2.1) to 2.3/2.4?

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Re: [parisc-linux] Pa-risc Linux timetables?

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 03:54:09PM +0300, Hannu Martikka wrote:
> Do we have any estimate on parisc/linux timetables? When is the pa-risc
> Linux going to be "released"? Do we target it to 2.5 or 2.6? 
> 
> We are now based on 2.2.1. How big effort would be required to merge
> pa-risc linux (2.2.1) to 2.3/2.4?

I believe we're aiming at having a 2.2 version ready for the end of the
year -- approximately the same time as Linus expects to have a 2.4 release
out.  Updating to 2.4 shouldn't be a big problem, and we don't have to be
ready for the release of 2.4.0 -- Linus merged alpha, sparc, ppc and mips
trees at several stages after 2.2.0 was released.  (Indeed, there is a
big mips merge in the 2.2.11 prepatches.)

Don't worry about 2.4 yet :-)

-- 
Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>
"Windows and MacOS are products, contrived by engineers in the service of
specific companies. Unix, by contrast, is not so much a product as it is a
painstakingly compiled oral history of the hacker subculture." - N Stephenson

Re: [parisc-linux] Pa-risc Linux timetables?

[Alex deVries]

Hannu Martikka wrote:
> I just noticed that Linus is doing feature freeze for 2.4 in few weeks.
> That raised couple of questions.

I've talked to Linus about merging the changes into his mainstream
kernel tree, and he's agreed, but only once our kernel actually does
something.  I agree with this.

> Do we have any estimate on parisc/linux timetables? When is the pa-risc
> Linux going to be "released"? Do we target it to 2.5 or 2.6?

It's very difficult to suggest a timeline to a project that's done only
on volunteer time, so I don't think anyone's ready to commit to a
schedule.  

My feeling is we'll address the kernel merge once we have a kernel to
merge.  A LOT of the architecture ports had their own seperate tree for
many years.  MIPS, for instance, has only just merged.

- alex
-- 
Alex deVries
Vice President of Engineering
The Puffin Group

Re: [parisc-linux] Pa-risc Linux timetables?

[Philipp Rumpf]

> I've talked to Linus about merging the changes into his mainstream
> kernel tree, and he's agreed, but only once our kernel actually does
> something.  I agree with this.

we do "something" right now.  I think we should wait with the merge until
we are really willing to start mainstream testing of the kernel, with a
more-or-less running userspace and all.

> It's very difficult to suggest a timeline to a project that's done only
> on volunteer time, so I don't think anyone's ready to commit to a

That is not exactly true.  My time is paid for by SuSE.

	Philipp Rumpf