RE: [Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to pri nter specific data

RE: [Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to pri nter specific data

[McDonald, Ira]

Hi,

Ah - you're building an interpreter - I'm sure there are some
free XHTML to PCL raster libraries somewhere, but some Google
searching for an hour didn't find them.

There was a design effort in XHTML-Print to ensure that a
receiver (a spooler or a printer) could interpret the XHMTL
pages one at a time, without caching.

Good luck with your project,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf
Of Prince P
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:40 PM
To: McDonald, Ira
Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
Subject: [Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to
printer specific data


Dear Ira,
          By acutal print data, what i meant was how to convert the
XHTML-Print format data to a raster format. In the specification, it
was pointed out that XHTML-Print is designed for low cost printers.  I
am trying to implement such an interpreter which can convert the
"XHTML-Print data to PCL format". It would be a great help, if you can
give me some links or guidelines on this. Again,the low cost printer
may not have enough memory  to store the XHTML-Print format data
fully. In that case,how we we can covert the partial data to actual. ?

 Thanks again Ira, for your helping hand. 


On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:23:19 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
<imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> Hi Prince,
> 
> By "actual print data" do you mean a raster format like
> PCL or a vector format like PDF or something else?
> 
> The XHTML-Print to actual print data conversion is done
> by an "interpreter" (either on the spooler or the target
> printer).  Support for printing of HTML documents is
> becoming more common on printers.  Typically, a modern
> HTML interpreter can also parse XHTML correctly.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> phone: +1-906-494-2434
> email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prince P [mailto:prince1a@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:59 AM
> To: McDonald, Ira
> Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
> Subject: Re: How to convert xhtml-print to printer specific data
> 
> 
> Hi Ira,
>          Thank you very much for replying.  I had gone through the
> spec http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/ . But it speaks about the xhtml
> standard only. It doesn't says how printers interprets this. Is the
> xhtml-print to actual print data conversion is done through some
> proprietary methods ?
> 
> Anyway thanks for the help Ira 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:12:48 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm forwarding your question to the general discussion list
> > of the IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group (PWG), who developed
> > the XHTML-Print standard and then passed it over to the W3C,
> > who adopted it as a W3C Candidate Standard in January 2004:
> > 
> > 	http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/
> > 
> > You might want to take a look at that standard itself.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> > 
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org
> > [mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf
> > Of Prince P
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:05 AM
> > To: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org
> > Subject: [Printing-architecture] How to convert xhtml-print to printer
> > specific data
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone tell how we can convert xhtml-print data to printer
> > specific data ? I had searched the whole web, but couldn't get any
> > useful info.
> > 
> > Please help me
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Prince
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Printing-architecture mailing list
> > Printing-architecture@mail.freestandards.org
> > http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-architecture
> >
>

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[Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to pri nter specific data

[Prince P]

Hi Ira,
        Thank you very much for the information and the help extended
to me.If you can give some insight or links  about the design effort
in  XHTML-Print group to interpret the XHMTL pages one at a time,
without caching, it will be a great help.

Thanks and Regards

Prince





On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:21:58 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
<imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ah - you're building an interpreter - I'm sure there are some
> free XHTML to PCL raster libraries somewhere, but some Google
> searching for an hour didn't find them.
> 
> There was a design effort in XHTML-Print to ensure that a
> receiver (a spooler or a printer) could interpret the XHMTL
> pages one at a time, without caching.
> 
> Good luck with your project,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> phone: +1-906-494-2434
> email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org
> [mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf
> Of Prince P
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:40 PM
> To: McDonald, Ira
> Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
> Subject: [Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to
> printer specific data
> 
> 
> Dear Ira,
>           By acutal print data, what i meant was how to convert the
> XHTML-Print format data to a raster format. In the specification, it
> was pointed out that XHTML-Print is designed for low cost printers.  I
> am trying to implement such an interpreter which can convert the
> "XHTML-Print data to PCL format". It would be a great help, if you can
> give me some links or guidelines on this. Again,the low cost printer
> may not have enough memory  to store the XHTML-Print format data
> fully. In that case,how we we can covert the partial data to actual. ?
> 
>  Thanks again Ira, for your helping hand. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:23:19 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > Hi Prince,
> > 
> > By "actual print data" do you mean a raster format like
> > PCL or a vector format like PDF or something else?
> > 
> > The XHTML-Print to actual print data conversion is done
> > by an "interpreter" (either on the spooler or the target
> > printer).  Support for printing of HTML documents is
> > becoming more common on printers.  Typically, a modern
> > HTML interpreter can also parse XHTML correctly.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> > 
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Prince P [mailto:prince1a@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:59 AM
> > To: McDonald, Ira
> > Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
> > Subject: Re: How to convert xhtml-print to printer specific data
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ira,
> >          Thank you very much for replying.  I had gone through the
> > spec http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/ . But it speaks about the xhtml
> > standard only. It doesn't says how printers interprets this. Is the
> > xhtml-print to actual print data conversion is done through some
> > proprietary methods ?
> > 
> > Anyway thanks for the help Ira 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:12:48 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> > <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm forwarding your question to the general discussion list
> > > of the IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group (PWG), who developed
> > > the XHTML-Print standard and then passed it over to the W3C,
> > > who adopted it as a W3C Candidate Standard in January 2004:
> > > 
> > > 	http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/
> > > 
> > > You might want to take a look at that standard itself.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Ira
> > > 
> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org
> > > [mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf
> > > Of Prince P
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:05 AM
> > > To: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org
> > > Subject: [Printing-architecture] How to convert xhtml-print to printer
> > > specific data
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Can anyone tell how we can convert xhtml-print data to printer
> > > specific data ? I had searched the whole web, but couldn't get any
> > > useful info.
> > > 
> > > Please help me
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Prince
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Printing-architecture mailing list
> > > Printing-architecture@mail.freestandards.org
> > > http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-architecture
> > >
> >
> 
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>

[Printing-architecture] RE: How to convert xhtml-print to pri nter specific data

[McDonald, Ira]

Hi,

I'd suggest you write directly to the W3C XHTML-Print editor
Jim Bigelow (jim.bigelow@hp.com).

I wasn't personally active in either the IEEE/ISTO PWG or
later W3C working groups for this standard.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Prince P [mailto:prince1a@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:08 AM
To: McDonald, Ira
Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org
Subject: Re: How to convert xhtml-print to pri nter specific data


Hi Ira,
        Thank you very much for the information and the help extended
to me.If you can give some insight or links  about the design effort
in  XHTML-Print group to interpret the XHMTL pages one at a time,
without caching, it will be a great help.

Thanks and Regards

Prince





On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:21:58 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
<imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ah - you're building an interpreter - I'm sure there are some
> free XHTML to PCL raster libraries somewhere, but some Google
> searching for an hour didn't find them.
> 
> There was a design effort in XHTML-Print to ensure that a
> receiver (a spooler or a printer) could interpret the XHMTL
> pages one at a time, without caching.
> 
> Good luck with your project,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> phone: +1-906-494-2434
> email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org
> [mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf
> Of Prince P
> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:40 PM
> To: McDonald, Ira
> Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
> Subject: [Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to
> printer specific data
> 
> 
> Dear Ira,
>           By acutal print data, what i meant was how to convert the
> XHTML-Print format data to a raster format. In the specification, it
> was pointed out that XHTML-Print is designed for low cost printers.  I
> am trying to implement such an interpreter which can convert the
> "XHTML-Print data to PCL format". It would be a great help, if you can
> give me some links or guidelines on this. Again,the low cost printer
> may not have enough memory  to store the XHTML-Print format data
> fully. In that case,how we we can covert the partial data to actual. ?
> 
>  Thanks again Ira, for your helping hand. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:23:19 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > Hi Prince,
> > 
> > By "actual print data" do you mean a raster format like
> > PCL or a vector format like PDF or something else?
> > 
> > The XHTML-Print to actual print data conversion is done
> > by an "interpreter" (either on the spooler or the target
> > printer).  Support for printing of HTML documents is
> > becoming more common on printers.  Typically, a modern
> > HTML interpreter can also parse XHTML correctly.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > - Ira
> > 
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Prince P [mailto:prince1a@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:59 AM
> > To: McDonald, Ira
> > Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
> > Subject: Re: How to convert xhtml-print to printer specific data
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ira,
> >          Thank you very much for replying.  I had gone through the
> > spec http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/ . But it speaks about the xhtml
> > standard only. It doesn't says how printers interprets this. Is the
> > xhtml-print to actual print data conversion is done through some
> > proprietary methods ?
> > 
> > Anyway thanks for the help Ira 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:12:48 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> > <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm forwarding your question to the general discussion list
> > > of the IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group (PWG), who developed
> > > the XHTML-Print standard and then passed it over to the W3C,
> > > who adopted it as a W3C Candidate Standard in January 2004:
> > > 
> > > 	http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/
> > > 
> > > You might want to take a look at that standard itself.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Ira
> > > 
> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org
> > > [mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On
Behalf
> > > Of Prince P
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:05 AM
> > > To: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org
> > > Subject: [Printing-architecture] How to convert xhtml-print to printer
> > > specific data
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Can anyone tell how we can convert xhtml-print data to printer
> > > specific data ? I had searched the whole web, but couldn't get any
> > > useful info.
> > > 
> > > Please help me
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Prince
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Printing-architecture mailing list
> > > Printing-architecture@mail.freestandards.org
> > > http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-architecture
> > >
> >
> 
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>

[Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to pri nter specific data

[Prince P]

Thank you Ira, for your valuable help. I will try to contact Jim.

Regards

Prince


On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:26:17 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
<imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd suggest you write directly to the W3C XHTML-Print editor
> Jim Bigelow (jim.bigelow@hp.com).
> 
> I wasn't personally active in either the IEEE/ISTO PWG or
> later W3C working groups for this standard.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> phone: +1-906-494-2434
> email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prince P [mailto:prince1a@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:08 AM
> To: McDonald, Ira
> Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org
> Subject: Re: How to convert xhtml-print to pri nter specific data
> 
> 
> Hi Ira,
>         Thank you very much for the information and the help extended
> to me.If you can give some insight or links  about the design effort
> in  XHTML-Print group to interpret the XHMTL pages one at a time,
> without caching, it will be a great help.
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> 
> Prince
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:21:58 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Ah - you're building an interpreter - I'm sure there are some
> > free XHTML to PCL raster libraries somewhere, but some Google
> > searching for an hour didn't find them.
> > 
> > There was a design effort in XHTML-Print to ensure that a
> > receiver (a spooler or a printer) could interpret the XHMTL
> > pages one at a time, without caching.
> > 
> > Good luck with your project,
> > - Ira
> > 
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org
> > [mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On Behalf
> > Of Prince P
> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:40 PM
> > To: McDonald, Ira
> > Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
> > Subject: [Printing-architecture] Re: How to convert xhtml-print to
> > printer specific data
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Ira,
> >           By acutal print data, what i meant was how to convert the
> > XHTML-Print format data to a raster format. In the specification, it
> > was pointed out that XHTML-Print is designed for low cost printers.  I
> > am trying to implement such an interpreter which can convert the
> > "XHTML-Print data to PCL format". It would be a great help, if you can
> > give me some links or guidelines on this. Again,the low cost printer
> > may not have enough memory  to store the XHTML-Print format data
> > fully. In that case,how we we can covert the partial data to actual. ?
> > 
> >  Thanks again Ira, for your helping hand. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:23:19 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> > <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Prince,
> > > 
> > > By "actual print data" do you mean a raster format like
> > > PCL or a vector format like PDF or something else?
> > > 
> > > The XHTML-Print to actual print data conversion is done
> > > by an "interpreter" (either on the spooler or the target
> > > printer).  Support for printing of HTML documents is
> > > becoming more common on printers.  Typically, a modern
> > > HTML interpreter can also parse XHTML correctly.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > - Ira
> > > 
> > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Prince P [mailto:prince1a@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:59 AM
> > > To: McDonald, Ira
> > > Cc: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org; pwg@pwg.org
> > > Subject: Re: How to convert xhtml-print to printer specific data
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Ira,
> > >          Thank you very much for replying.  I had gone through the
> > > spec http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/ . But it speaks about the xhtml
> > > standard only. It doesn't says how printers interprets this. Is the
> > > xhtml-print to actual print data conversion is done through some
> > > proprietary methods ?
> > > 
> > > Anyway thanks for the help Ira 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:12:48 -0800, "McDonald, Ira"
> > > <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm forwarding your question to the general discussion list
> > > > of the IEEE/ISTO Printer Working Group (PWG), who developed
> > > > the XHTML-Print standard and then passed it over to the W3C,
> > > > who adopted it as a W3C Candidate Standard in January 2004:
> > > > 
> > > > 	http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-print/
> > > > 
> > > > You might want to take a look at that standard itself.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > - Ira
> > > > 
> > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> > > > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> > > > PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
> > > > phone: +1-906-494-2434
> > > > email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org
> > > > [mailto:printing-architecture-bounces@base3.freestandards.org]On
> Behalf
> > > > Of Prince P
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 12:05 AM
> > > > To: printing-architecture@base3.freestandards.org
> > > > Subject: [Printing-architecture] How to convert xhtml-print to
> printer
> > > > specific data
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Can anyone tell how we can convert xhtml-print data to printer
> > > > specific data ? I had searched the whole web, but couldn't get any
> > > > useful info.
> > > > 
> > > > Please help me
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > 
> > > > Prince
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Printing-architecture mailing list
> > > > Printing-architecture@mail.freestandards.org
> > > > http://mail.freestandards.org/mailman/listinfo/printing-architecture
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>