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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Segher Boessenkool' <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Naresh Kamboju <naresh.kamboju@linaro.org>
Cc: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@linaro.org>,
	Linux Regressions <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	clang-built-linux <llvm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lkft-triage@lists.linaro.org" <lkft-triage@lists.linaro.org>,
	Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: RE: powerpc: io-defs.h:43:1: error: performing pointer arithmetic on a null pointer has undefined behavior [-Werror,-Wnull-pointer-arithmetic]
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 11:09:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d0de2bee67643bfa5a561e70133db75@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240416103819.GQ19790@gate.crashing.org>

From: Segher Boessenkool
> Sent: 16 April 2024 11:38
> 
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 03:02:52PM +0530, Naresh Kamboju wrote:
> > In file included from arch/powerpc/include/asm/io.h:672:
> > arch/powerpc/include/asm/io-defs.h:43:1: error: performing pointer
> > arithmetic on a null pointer has undefined behavior
> > [-Werror,-Wnull-pointer-arithmetic]
> 
> It is not UB, but just undefined: the program is meaningless.
> 
> It is not a null pointer but even a null pointer constant here.  It
> matters in places, including here.
> 
> It would help if the warnings were more correct :-(

Isn't it only a problem because the NULL pointer isn't required to
be the all-zero bit pattern?

So when do we get a warning from using memset() on a structure
that contains pointers? Since it is equally buggy.

Has anyone ever seen a system where NULL wasn't 'all zeros'?
I've used a system where the 'native' invalid pointer was 'all ones',
but even there the C code used 'all zeros'.

	David

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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Segher Boessenkool' <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Naresh Kamboju <naresh.kamboju@linaro.org>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@linaro.org>,
	Linux Regressions <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	clang-built-linux <llvm@lists.linux.dev>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lkft-triage@lists.linaro.org" <lkft-triage@lists.linaro.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: RE: powerpc: io-defs.h:43:1: error: performing pointer arithmetic on a null pointer has undefined behavior [-Werror,-Wnull-pointer-arithmetic]
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2024 11:09:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d0de2bee67643bfa5a561e70133db75@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240416103819.GQ19790@gate.crashing.org>

From: Segher Boessenkool
> Sent: 16 April 2024 11:38
> 
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 03:02:52PM +0530, Naresh Kamboju wrote:
> > In file included from arch/powerpc/include/asm/io.h:672:
> > arch/powerpc/include/asm/io-defs.h:43:1: error: performing pointer
> > arithmetic on a null pointer has undefined behavior
> > [-Werror,-Wnull-pointer-arithmetic]
> 
> It is not UB, but just undefined: the program is meaningless.
> 
> It is not a null pointer but even a null pointer constant here.  It
> matters in places, including here.
> 
> It would help if the warnings were more correct :-(

Isn't it only a problem because the NULL pointer isn't required to
be the all-zero bit pattern?

So when do we get a warning from using memset() on a structure
that contains pointers? Since it is equally buggy.

Has anyone ever seen a system where NULL wasn't 'all zeros'?
I've used a system where the 'native' invalid pointer was 'all ones',
but even there the C code used 'all zeros'.

	David

-
Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-16 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-16  9:32 powerpc: io-defs.h:43:1: error: performing pointer arithmetic on a null pointer has undefined behavior [-Werror,-Wnull-pointer-arithmetic] Naresh Kamboju
2024-04-16  9:32 ` Naresh Kamboju
2024-04-16 10:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2024-04-16 10:38   ` Segher Boessenkool
2024-04-16 11:09   ` David Laight [this message]
2024-04-16 11:09     ` David Laight
2024-04-16 11:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-16 11:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-16 11:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-16 11:55     ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-16 12:42     ` Dan Carpenter
2024-04-16 12:42       ` Dan Carpenter
2024-04-16 12:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-16 12:44         ` Arnd Bergmann

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