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From: Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>
To: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/13] tcg/s390x: Remove TCG_REG_TB
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2022 21:40:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1fdded318cbe47fb03b6b476b294afc75bf17d09.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ab2945a-c54b-d806-0316-efcf26c91814@linaro.org>

On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 08:55 -0600, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 12/7/22 01:45, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > On 06/12/2022 23.22, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > On 12/6/22 13:29, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
> > > > This change doesn't seem to affect that, but what is the
> > > > minimum
> > > > supported s390x qemu host? z900?
> > > 
> > > Possibly z990, if I'm reading the gcc processor_flags_table[]
> > > correctly; 
> > > long-displacement-facility is definitely a minimum.
> > > 
> > > We probably should revisit what the minimum for TCG should be,
> > > assert those features at 
> > > startup, and drop the corresponding runtime tests.
> > 
> > If we consider the official IBM support statement:
> > 
> > https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/IBM%20Mainframe%20Life%20Cycle%20History%20V2.10%20-%20Sept%2013%202022_1.pdf
> > 
> > ... that would mean that the z10 and all older machines are not
> > supported anymore.
> 
> Thanks for the pointer.  It would appear that z114 exits support at
> the end of this month, 
> which would leave z12 as minimum supported cpu.
> 
> Even assuming z196 gets us extended-immediate, general-insn-
> extension, load-on-condition, 
> and distinct-operands, which are all quite important to TCG, and
> constitute almost all of 
> the current runtime checks.
> 
> The other metric would be matching the set of supported cpus from the
> set of supported os 
> distributions, but I would be ready to believe z196 is below the
> minimum there too.
> 
> 
> r~

I think it should be safe to raise the minimum required hardware for
TCG to z196:

* The oldest supported RHEL is v7, it requires z196:

https://access.redhat.com/product-life-cycles/
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/installation_guide/chap-installation-planning-s390

* The oldest supported SLES is v12, it requires z196:

https://www.suse.com/de-de/lifecycle/
https://documentation.suse.com/sles/12-SP5/html/SLES-all/cha-zseries.html

* The oldest supported Ubuntu is v16.04, it requires zEC12+:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/S390X

Best regards,
Ilya


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-07 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-02  6:51 [PATCH v3 00/13] tcg/s390x: misc patches Richard Henderson
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] tcg/s390x: Use register pair allocation for div and mulu2 Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 15:49   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] tcg/s390x: Remove TCG_REG_TB Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 19:29   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-06 22:22     ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-07  0:42       ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-08 14:04         ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-07  7:45       ` Thomas Huth
2022-12-07 14:55         ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-07 20:40           ` Ilya Leoshkevich [this message]
2022-12-07 21:20             ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-12-07 22:09       ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] tcg/s390x: Use LARL+AGHI for odd addresses Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 19:42   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] tcg/s390x: Distinguish RRF-a and RRF-c formats Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 19:45   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] tcg/s390x: Distinguish RIE formats Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 19:47   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] tcg/s390x: Support MIE2 multiply single instructions Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 20:02   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-06 20:20     ` Richard Henderson
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] tcg/s390x: Support MIE2 MGRK instruction Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 20:02   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] tcg/s390x: Support MIE3 logical operations Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 20:08   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] tcg/s390x: Create tgen_cmp2 to simplify movcond Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 20:14   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] tcg/s390x: Generalize movcond implementation Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 20:39   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] tcg/s390x: Support SELGR instruction in movcond Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 20:41   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:51 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] tcg/s390x: Use tgen_movcond_int in tgen_clz Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 20:49   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2022-12-02  6:52 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] tcg/s390x: Implement ctpop operation Richard Henderson
2022-12-06 21:10   ` Ilya Leoshkevich

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