From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Cristian Ciocaltea <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com>,
Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
Detlev Casanova <detlev.casanova@collabora.com>,
Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@kernel.org>,
kernel@collabora.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] media: dt-bindings: rockchip,vdec: Add alternative reg-names order for RK35{76,88}
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 10:54:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1fe5529f-cd9f-4960-b6dd-96a2d02b8d86@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ab4f91e-37d0-4950-af88-01920705d31a@collabora.com>
On 27/02/2026 18:42, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
> On 2/27/26 7:13 PM, Conor Dooley wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 01:37:17PM +0200, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
>>> Hi Krzysztof, Conor,
>>>
>>> On 2/27/26 9:46 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 12:46:53PM +0200, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
>>>>> With the introduction of the RK3588 SoC, and RK3576 afterwards, two more
>>>>> register blocks have been provided for the video decoder unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, the binding does not properly describe the new hardware layout,
>>>>
>>>> As you shown me last time with excerpt of address spaces from
>>>> datasheet/manual, the binding correctly describes the hardware and above
>>>> sentence is not true.
>>>>
>>>>> as it breaks the convention expecting the unit address to indicate the
>>>>> start of the first register range, i.e. 'function' block is listed
>>>>
>>>> Imprecise wording. "start of the main or primary register range"
>>>>
>>>> (if you have 0x1000 with one reg and 0x20000000 with everything, the
>>>> unit address will be 0x20000000).
>>>>
>>>>> before 'link' instead of the opposite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the binding changes have been already released and a fix would
>>>>> bring up an ABI break, mark the current 'reg-names' ordering as
>>>>> deprecated and introduce an alternative 'link,function,cache' listing
>>>>> which follows the address-based ordering according to the TRM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, drop the 'reg' description items as the order is not fixed
>>>>> anymore, while the information they offer is not very relevant anyway.
>>>>
>>>> This is fine for me.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the additional feedback!
>>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken (please correct me), the only remaining (hard)
>>> blocker for the series would be to improve this commit message.
>>
>> No, you also need to fix the problem I pointed out about reg-names being
>> optional on the devices you're relying on reg-names for.
>
> My only concern is that by marking reg-names as required we would break the ABI,
You are ALREADY BREAKING the ABI. Really, for absolutely non-important
cosmetic change in unit address, where I asked you repeatedly to fix the
unit address, you change the ABI affecting kernel and DTS users.
This is barely acceptable, but I am just annoyed already explain it to
you multiple times.
But now you claim, you can break ABI for cosmetic unimportant change,
but actually doing something meaningful is a no-go?
At least use correct arguments if you want to discuss.
> since the RK3588 related changes in the binding (not the DTS ones) got already
> released (i.e. since v6.17). That's also the reason we went with this deprecated
> order approach.
>
>> The new commit
>> message I am happy with, provided you also add the information Nicolas
>> provided about the impact on users.
>
> Nicolas, can you please provide here the statement so that we can agree on the
> wording?
>
> Thanks,
> Cristian
>
>>
>>>
>>> How about the following:
>>>
>>> With the introduction of the RK3588 SoC, and RK3576 afterwards, three
>>> register blocks have been provided for the video decoder unit instead of
>>> just one, which are further referenced in the datasheet by 'link table',
>>> 'function' and 'cache'. The former is present at the top of the
>>> listing, starting at video decoder unit base address.
>>>
>>> However, while documenting RK3588, the binding broke the convention
>>> expecting the unit address to indicate the start of the primary register
>>> range, i.e. the 'function' block got listed before the 'link' one.
>>>
>>> Since the binding changes have been already released and a fix would
>>> bring up an ABI break, mark the current 'reg-names' ordering as
>>> deprecated and introduce an alternative 'link,function,cache' listing
>>> which follows the address-based ordering according to the TRM.
>>>
>>> Additionally, drop the 'reg' description items as the order is not fixed
>>> anymore, while the information they offer is not very relevant anyway.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Cristian
>
Best regards,
Krzysztof
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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Cristian Ciocaltea <cristian.ciocaltea@collabora.com>,
Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
Detlev Casanova <detlev.casanova@collabora.com>,
Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@kernel.org>,
kernel@collabora.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] media: dt-bindings: rockchip,vdec: Add alternative reg-names order for RK35{76,88}
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2026 10:54:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1fe5529f-cd9f-4960-b6dd-96a2d02b8d86@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ab4f91e-37d0-4950-af88-01920705d31a@collabora.com>
On 27/02/2026 18:42, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
> On 2/27/26 7:13 PM, Conor Dooley wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 01:37:17PM +0200, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
>>> Hi Krzysztof, Conor,
>>>
>>> On 2/27/26 9:46 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 12:46:53PM +0200, Cristian Ciocaltea wrote:
>>>>> With the introduction of the RK3588 SoC, and RK3576 afterwards, two more
>>>>> register blocks have been provided for the video decoder unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, the binding does not properly describe the new hardware layout,
>>>>
>>>> As you shown me last time with excerpt of address spaces from
>>>> datasheet/manual, the binding correctly describes the hardware and above
>>>> sentence is not true.
>>>>
>>>>> as it breaks the convention expecting the unit address to indicate the
>>>>> start of the first register range, i.e. 'function' block is listed
>>>>
>>>> Imprecise wording. "start of the main or primary register range"
>>>>
>>>> (if you have 0x1000 with one reg and 0x20000000 with everything, the
>>>> unit address will be 0x20000000).
>>>>
>>>>> before 'link' instead of the opposite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the binding changes have been already released and a fix would
>>>>> bring up an ABI break, mark the current 'reg-names' ordering as
>>>>> deprecated and introduce an alternative 'link,function,cache' listing
>>>>> which follows the address-based ordering according to the TRM.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, drop the 'reg' description items as the order is not fixed
>>>>> anymore, while the information they offer is not very relevant anyway.
>>>>
>>>> This is fine for me.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the additional feedback!
>>>
>>> If I'm not mistaken (please correct me), the only remaining (hard)
>>> blocker for the series would be to improve this commit message.
>>
>> No, you also need to fix the problem I pointed out about reg-names being
>> optional on the devices you're relying on reg-names for.
>
> My only concern is that by marking reg-names as required we would break the ABI,
You are ALREADY BREAKING the ABI. Really, for absolutely non-important
cosmetic change in unit address, where I asked you repeatedly to fix the
unit address, you change the ABI affecting kernel and DTS users.
This is barely acceptable, but I am just annoyed already explain it to
you multiple times.
But now you claim, you can break ABI for cosmetic unimportant change,
but actually doing something meaningful is a no-go?
At least use correct arguments if you want to discuss.
> since the RK3588 related changes in the binding (not the DTS ones) got already
> released (i.e. since v6.17). That's also the reason we went with this deprecated
> order approach.
>
>> The new commit
>> message I am happy with, provided you also add the information Nicolas
>> provided about the impact on users.
>
> Nicolas, can you please provide here the statement so that we can agree on the
> wording?
>
> Thanks,
> Cristian
>
>>
>>>
>>> How about the following:
>>>
>>> With the introduction of the RK3588 SoC, and RK3576 afterwards, three
>>> register blocks have been provided for the video decoder unit instead of
>>> just one, which are further referenced in the datasheet by 'link table',
>>> 'function' and 'cache'. The former is present at the top of the
>>> listing, starting at video decoder unit base address.
>>>
>>> However, while documenting RK3588, the binding broke the convention
>>> expecting the unit address to indicate the start of the primary register
>>> range, i.e. the 'function' block got listed before the 'link' one.
>>>
>>> Since the binding changes have been already released and a fix would
>>> bring up an ABI break, mark the current 'reg-names' ordering as
>>> deprecated and introduce an alternative 'link,function,cache' listing
>>> which follows the address-based ordering according to the TRM.
>>>
>>> Additionally, drop the 'reg' description items as the order is not fixed
>>> anymore, while the information they offer is not very relevant anyway.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Cristian
>
Best regards,
Krzysztof
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-26 10:46 [PATCH v4 0/3] arm64: dts: rockchip: Fix vdec register blocks order on RK3576/RK3588 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 10:46 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 10:46 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] media: dt-bindings: rockchip,vdec: Add alternative reg-names order for RK35{76,88} Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 10:46 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 18:43 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-26 18:43 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-26 19:45 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-26 19:45 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-26 20:59 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-26 20:59 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-26 21:56 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-26 21:56 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-26 22:15 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-26 22:15 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-26 22:41 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-26 22:41 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-27 7:38 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-27 7:38 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-27 9:09 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 9:09 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 17:18 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 17:18 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 17:49 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-27 17:49 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-27 18:10 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 18:10 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 19:35 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-27 19:35 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-27 19:39 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 19:39 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 7:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-27 7:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-27 7:46 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-27 7:46 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-27 11:37 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-27 11:37 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-27 13:03 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-27 13:03 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-28 1:11 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-28 1:11 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-02-27 17:13 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 17:13 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-27 17:42 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-27 17:42 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-28 9:54 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-02-28 9:54 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-28 9:58 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-28 9:58 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-03 0:26 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-03-03 0:26 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-03-04 21:26 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-03-04 21:26 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 10:46 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] arm64: dts: rockchip: Fix vdec register blocks order on RK3576 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 10:46 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 10:46 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] arm64: dts: rockchip: Update vdec register blocks order on RK3588 Cristian Ciocaltea
2026-02-26 10:46 ` Cristian Ciocaltea
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