From: Sven LUTHER <luther@debian.org>
To: "David A. Gatwood" <dgatwood@deepspace.mklinux.org>
Cc: Sergio Brandano <sb@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>,
Worth <haworth@ncal.verio.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org, debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Pismo status
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:32:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000522153243.A12915@lambda.u-strasbg.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1000520223754.11206C-100000@deepspace.mklinux.org>; from dgatwood@deepspace.mklinux.org on Sat, May 20, 2000 at 10:52:31PM -0700
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 10:52:31PM -0700, David A. Gatwood wrote:
> On Sat, 20 May 2000, Sergio Brandano wrote:
>
> > I do not know why I am wasting time with this issue. Anyway, I have a
> > very different experience on cooling both cars and computers. All the
> > cars I happen to see do run the fan after shutdown (I can clearly
> > hear the quiet after shutdown, then the sound of the fan after a few
> > seconds). This is probably due to a different design for countries
> > with a warm weather, as you report otherwise. Concerning computers,
> > and Linux, it is running this OS that the situation improved, as far
> > as Intel processors are concerned. I can say that the cpus, before
> > the advent of the caged P-II, where so cold that I could safaly touch
Well, ...
not so long ago i fried a Pentium 200 because i forgot to connect the fan ...
and believe me, it was not cold when i touched it, ...
> > them. This was, again, using Linux. Using MS-Windows, instead, I
> > could *not* do the similar thing for sure. And I have been using
> > Intel processors for a long, long time. I have a very different
> > experience with PPC. I purchased my first one last summer, and it is
> > damn hot. How is that Linux does not help here? How is that PPC is
> > claimed to be cooler than Intel?
>
> Don't compare Apples and Oranges. You're comparing a Pentium II to a G3.
> A PII is somewhere near a PPC 604 in terms of speed. If you touch a 604
> heat sink, in my experience, it's luke warm even after running for several
> hundred days continuously under linux. Been there, done that.
Also it depends if your are using a tower or desktop casing, instead of a
laptop. The laptop is tiny, has no big cooling box and i think most heat of
your laptop comes from your harddisk, graphic chip, memory and DVD drive.
> For a fair comparison to the G3, you need to consider at least a Pentium
> III (at about half again faster clock speed ;-).
well, i think the pIII are less watt hungry, since they are done in a smaller
process. IBM is advertissing their G3 as using less than 6Watss, while PII
used more than 20/30 watts, not to compare with the fast athlons which use 50
watts and up. and since used watts are dissipated more or less into heat, ...
Friendly,
Sven LUTHER
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-05-22 13:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-05-16 7:23 Pismo status Chris Leishman
2000-05-16 8:46 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-16 14:15 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-16 14:13 ` Chris Leishman
2000-05-16 19:51 ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-17 9:03 ` Albrecht Dre_
2000-05-17 10:54 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-17 12:08 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 5:15 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-18 9:13 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-18 14:35 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 15:33 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-18 14:47 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-18 15:49 ` Sergio Brandano
[not found] ` <20000519094029.A16145@lambda.u-strasbg.fr>
2000-05-19 12:30 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-19 19:42 ` Worth
2000-05-20 9:51 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-20 11:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-21 5:52 ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-22 13:32 ` Sven LUTHER [this message]
2000-05-22 14:44 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 13:54 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:01 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 14:13 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:16 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 14:33 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-22 15:41 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-22 15:48 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-22 16:46 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-22 17:08 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-23 17:48 ` Debian pmud package available Michael Schmitz
2000-05-23 18:59 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-23 18:09 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-24 7:11 ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-05-24 7:31 ` PMUD vs APM Joseph Garcia
2000-05-24 11:00 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-24 10:13 ` Joseph Garcia
2000-05-24 11:04 ` Steven Hanley
2000-05-24 9:18 ` Debian pmud package available Michael Schmitz
2000-05-24 20:23 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-25 12:04 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-25 20:25 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-26 7:58 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-26 9:25 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-28 1:58 ` Robert Thompson
2000-05-28 12:03 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-28 14:35 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-05-28 14:42 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-05-30 6:55 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2000-05-30 8:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-05-30 20:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2000-05-31 13:20 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-31 19:01 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-06-01 7:45 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-06-01 8:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-06 18:44 ` Michael Schmitz
2000-06-06 19:12 ` Joseph Garcia
2000-06-06 19:42 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-06 20:00 ` Pismo battery support (was 'Re: Debian pmud package available') Joseph Garcia
2000-06-06 20:13 ` Michel Dänzer
2000-06-07 7:08 ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-06-07 7:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-06-06 20:09 ` Debian pmud package available Michel Dänzer
2000-06-07 13:50 ` Francois Felix Ingrand
2000-05-24 0:31 ` Wilhelm Fitzpatrick
2000-05-24 7:30 ` Stephan Leemburg
2000-05-21 21:01 ` Pismo status Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-21 21:28 ` Rawhide SRPMS ian reinhart geiser
2000-05-22 5:17 ` Pismo status Ethan Benson
2000-05-22 8:58 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-22 21:34 ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-20 16:23 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-21 6:10 ` David A. Gatwood
2000-05-18 20:06 ` Worth
2000-05-18 14:33 ` Sven LUTHER
2000-05-19 5:40 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-18 14:48 ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-19 5:53 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2000-05-17 15:04 ` Tim Wojtulewicz
2000-05-17 16:15 ` Sergio Brandano
2000-05-17 17:36 ` Worth
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2000-05-21 10:12 Claudio Nieder
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