From: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Subtle MM bug
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:57:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010108135700.O9321@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101072223160.29065-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:42:11PM -0800
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:42:11PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> and just get rid of all the logic to try to "find the best mm". It's bogus
> anyway: we should get perfectly fair access patterns by just doing
> everything in round-robin
Definitely.
> Then, with something like the above, we just try to make sure that we scan
> the whole virtual memory space every once in a while. Make the "every once
> in a while" be some simple heuristic like "try to keep the active list to
> less than 50% of all memory".
... which will produce an enormous storm of soft page faults for
workloads involving mmaping large amounts of data or where we have
a lot of space devoted to anonymous pages, such as static
computational workloads.
The idea of an inactive list target is sound, but it needs to be based
on memory pressure: we don't need anything like 50% if we aren't under
any pressure, so compute-bound workloads with large data sets can
achieve stability.
--Stephen
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2001-01-08 6:42 ` Subtle MM bug Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 13:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-08 16:42 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 13:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie [this message]
2001-01-08 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 18:10 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-08 21:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 23:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09 22:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 21:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-09 22:11 ` Yet another bogus piece of do_try_to_free_pages() Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10 0:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 6:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10 22:19 ` Roger Larsson
2001-01-11 0:11 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17 6:58 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17 6:07 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-17 19:04 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17 19:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-18 0:55 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17 6:52 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-09 23:58 ` Subtle MM bug Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 22:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10 0:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 0:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-10 11:29 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 3:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-11 9:42 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 15:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-01-17 4:54 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 16:45 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 18:21 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 18:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 19:57 Chris Wing
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-08 20:39 Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-01-08 21:56 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 23:22 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 23:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-09 0:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 22:00 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 22:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-08 5:29 Wayne Whitney
2001-01-08 5:42 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-08 6:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 17:44 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 17:16 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-08 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-08 23:41 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 2:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 6:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-09 7:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 11:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-09 12:29 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 19:09 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-09 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-10 17:32 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:33 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:43 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-10 19:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 19:48 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 9:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-10 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-11 12:56 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 13:10 ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-11 13:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2001-01-11 14:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:03 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-11 19:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:57 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-11 16:50 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-11 17:35 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-01-11 19:38 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-11 19:01 ` Alexander Viro
2001-01-09 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-17 8:46 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-25 22:51 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-01-09 19:53 ` Simon Kirby
2001-01-09 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-09 20:10 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-10 1:45 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-10 2:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10 6:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 11:46 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-10 14:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-10 17:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-10 18:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-01-17 14:26 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-10 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-10 19:27 ` David S. Miller
2001-01-10 19:36 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-10 23:56 ` David Weinehall
2001-01-11 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-12 5:56 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-12 16:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-12 21:11 ` Russell King
2001-01-15 2:56 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-15 6:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-01-15 2:53 ` Ralf Baechle
2001-01-17 14:28 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-18 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 11:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-11 14:36 ` Jim Gettys
2001-01-08 21:30 ` Wayne Whitney
2001-01-07 20:59 Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-07 20:59 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-07 21:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-07 21:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-07 22:33 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-07 22:33 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 2:01 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-09 2:01 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17 4:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17 4:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-17 18:53 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-17 18:53 ` Zlatko Calusic
2001-01-18 1:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-01-18 1:32 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-17 19:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
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