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From: Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>
To: Sean Hunter <sean@dev.sportingbet.com>
Cc: Laramie Leavitt <laramie.leavitt@btinternet.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: binfmt_script and ^M
Date: 06 Mar 2001 17:59:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200103061659.RAA18212@microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010306151242.D31649@dev.sportingbet.com>
In-Reply-To: <3AA4D92D.CDDB764D@ftel.co.uk> <JKEGJJAJPOLNIFPAEDHLEEDGCJAA.laramie.leavitt@btinternet.com>  <20010306151242.D31649@dev.sportingbet.com>

Wouldn't it be easier to run the script interpreter through WINE ? This
way we could workaround several Win32 peculiarities, and users wouldn't
bother taking special steps when coding on their home PC.

Xav

Le 06 Mar 2001 15:12:42 +0000, Sean Hunter a écrit :
> 
> I propose
> /proc/sys/kernel/im_too_lame_to_learn_how_to_use_the_most_basic_of_unix_tools_so_i_want_the_kernel_to_be_filled_with_crap_to_disguise_my_ineptitude
> 
> Any support?
> 
> Sean
> 
> On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:45:51PM -0000, Laramie Leavitt wrote:
> > > Andreas Schwab wrote:
> > > > Paul Flinders <paul@dawa.demon.co.uk> writes:
> > > > |> Andreas Schwab wrote:
> > > > |>
> > > > |> > This [isspace('\r') == 1] has no significance here.  The
> > > right thing to
> > > > |>
> > > > |> > look at is $IFS, which does not contain \r by default.
> > > The shell only splits
> > > > |>
> > > > |> > words by "IFS whitespace", and the kernel should be
> > > consistent with it:
> > > > |> >
> > > > |> > $ echo -e 'ls foo\r' | sh
> > > > |> > ls: foo: No such file or directory
> > > > |>
> > > > |> The problem with that argument is that #!<interpreter> can be applied
> > > > |> to more than just shells which understand $IFS, so which environment
> > > > |> variable does the kernel pick?
> > > >
> > > > The kernel should use the same default value of IFS as the Bourne shell,
> > > > ie. the same value you'll get with /bin/sh -c 'echo "$IFS"'.  This is
> > > > independent of any settings in the environment.
> > > >
> > > > |> It's a difficult one - logically white space should
> > > terminate the interpreter
> > > >
> > > > No, IFS-whitespace delimits arguments in the Bourne shell.
> > >
> > > Way back whenever processing #! was moved from the
> > > shell to the kernel** this argument would have made sense -
> > > today I'm not so sure.
> > >
> > > But I'm quite happy for the kernel to use just space and
> > > tab if it wishes, or anything else for that matter but it _is_
> > > confusing that the error code doesn't distinguish problems
> > > with the script from problems with the interpreter.
> > >
> > > **Did linux ever rely on the shell for this?
> > 
> > Maybe the correct answer would be to create a proc entry for this.
> > That allow the user to decide what is whitespace on his machine,
> > since nobody here appears to agree.
> > 
> > User:  hmm... Wonder what happes if i do the following
> >        %cat '$#! \n\t\r' > /proc/whitespace
> > later, % config.sh : Error file not found.
> > Oops, bug report... ;-)
> > 
> > Laramie
> > 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-03-06 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-27 13:03 binfmt_script and ^M Ivo Timmermans
2001-02-27 13:44 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-27 13:47   ` Ivo Timmermans
2001-02-27 13:54     ` Alan Cox
2001-02-27 14:36       ` Rogier Wolff
2001-02-28 20:10   ` Erik Hensema
2001-03-01 12:04     ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-05 13:20       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2001-03-05 13:37         ` Andreas Schwab
2001-03-05 13:40         ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-03-05 14:55           ` John Kodis
2001-03-05 15:25             ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-05 15:59               ` Jeff Mcadams
2001-03-05 16:18                 ` Paul Flinders
2001-03-05 17:12                   ` Andreas Schwab
2001-03-05 19:54                     ` Paul Flinders
2001-03-05 20:09                       ` Paul Flinders
2001-03-06 10:41                       ` Andreas Schwab
2001-03-06 12:33                         ` Paul Flinders
2001-03-06 14:45                           ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-03-06 15:12                             ` Sean Hunter
2001-03-06 15:37                               ` David Weinehall
2001-03-06 21:10                                 ` Thorsten Glaser Geuer
     [not found]                                   ` <20010308130145.O20737@dev.sportingbet.com>
2001-03-09 16:52                                     ` Thorsten Glaser Geuer
2001-03-06 15:53                               ` James A. Sutherland
2001-03-06 16:59                               ` Xavier Bestel [this message]
2001-03-07  8:29                               ` Ondrej Sury
2001-03-06 18:17                           ` binfmt_script and ^M (historical note) Don Dugger
2001-03-05 18:58                   ` binfmt_script and ^M Pozsar Balazs
2001-03-05 20:39                     ` Robert Read
2001-03-05 21:05                       ` Pozsar Balazs
2001-03-05 22:34                         ` Robert Read
2001-03-06 15:14                           ` Jeff Coy
2001-03-06 18:15                             ` Peter Samuelson
2001-03-06 18:36                               ` Jeff Coy
2001-03-06 20:26                                 ` John Kodis
2001-03-06 20:43                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2001-03-06  2:18                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-03-05 15:50             ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-03-05 16:53               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-05 21:48             ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-03-06 18:19               ` Peter Samuelson
2001-03-06 21:04                 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-03-05 14:56           ` [PATCH]: print missing interpreter name [Was: Re: binfmt_script and ^M] Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2001-03-05 15:59             ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-03-05 20:18               ` [PATCH #3]: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2001-03-05 16:37           ` binfmt_script and ^M Erik Hensema
2001-03-05 22:13             ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-02-27 13:42 Heusden, Folkert van
2001-02-27 13:38 ` Ivo Timmermans
2001-02-27 14:01   ` Bruce Harada
2001-02-27 19:20   ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-27 19:59     ` Don Dugger
2001-02-27 21:35   ` Rogier Wolff
2001-02-27 13:53 Heusden, Folkert van
2001-02-27 14:26 ` Alistair Riddell
2001-02-27 23:22   ` David
2001-02-28 14:07     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-02-28 22:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-03-05 19:14 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-06 20:54 ` Thorsten Glaser Geuer
2001-03-05 21:15 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-06 13:55 Jesse Pollard
2001-03-06 14:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2001-03-06 15:56 Jesse Pollard

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