From: Guest section DW <dwguest@win.tue.nl>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Michael Peddemors <michael@linuxmagic.com>,
Stephen Clouse <stephenc@theiqgroup.com>,
"Patrick O'Rourke" <orourke@missioncriticallinux.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:21:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010323182105.C6487@win.tue.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010323015358Z129164-406+3041@vger.kernel.org> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0103230403370.29682-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> <20010323122815.A6428@win.tue.nl> <m1hf0k1qvi.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
In-Reply-To: <m1hf0k1qvi.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from Eric W. Biederman on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:50:25AM -0700
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:50:25AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Mar 23 11:48:49 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2019 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:49 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1407 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:50 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1495 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:50 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2800 (rpm).
> >
> > [yes, that was rpm growing too large, taking a few emacs sessions]
> > [2.4.2]
>
> Let me get this straight you don't have enough swap for your workload?
> And you don't have per process limits on root by default?
>
> So you are complaining about the OOM killer?
I should not react - your questions are phrased rhetorically.
But yes, I am complaining because Linux by default is unreliable.
I strongly prefer a system that is reliable by default,
and I'll leave it to others to run it in an unreliable mode.
Andries
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From: Guest section DW <dwguest@win.tue.nl>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
Michael Peddemors <michael@linuxmagic.com>,
Stephen Clouse <stephenc@theiqgroup.com>,
Patrick O'Rourke <orourke@missioncriticallinux.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:21:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010323182105.C6487@win.tue.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1hf0k1qvi.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from Eric W. Biederman on Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:50:25AM -0700
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:50:25AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Mar 23 11:48:49 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2019 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:49 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1407 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:50 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 1495 (emacs).
> > Mar 23 11:48:50 mette kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 2800 (rpm).
> >
> > [yes, that was rpm growing too large, taking a few emacs sessions]
> > [2.4.2]
>
> Let me get this straight you don't have enough swap for your workload?
> And you don't have per process limits on root by default?
>
> So you are complaining about the OOM killer?
I should not react - your questions are phrased rhetorically.
But yes, I am complaining because Linux by default is unreliable.
I strongly prefer a system that is reliable by default,
and I'll leave it to others to run it in an unreliable mode.
Andries
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-03-23 17:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 269+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-03-21 22:54 [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-21 22:54 ` Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-21 23:11 ` Eli Carter
2001-03-21 23:11 ` Eli Carter
2001-03-21 23:40 ` Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-21 23:40 ` Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-21 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-21 23:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 8:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-22 8:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-22 9:24 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 9:24 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 19:29 ` Philipp Rumpf
2001-03-22 19:29 ` Philipp Rumpf
2001-03-22 11:47 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 11:47 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 15:01 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 15:01 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 19:04 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 19:04 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 23:10 ` Jordi Polo
2001-03-22 16:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-22 16:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-22 20:28 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-22 20:28 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-22 21:01 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-03-22 21:01 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-03-22 21:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 21:23 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 22:00 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 22:00 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 22:12 ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-03-22 22:12 ` Ed Tomlinson
2001-03-22 22:52 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 22:52 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:27 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 23:27 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 23:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 23:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-26 19:04 ` James Antill
2001-03-26 19:04 ` James Antill
2001-03-26 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-26 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 20:09 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 20:09 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 22:37 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 22:37 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 19:57 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 19:57 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-22 22:10 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-22 22:10 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-22 22:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 22:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:30 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-22 23:30 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-22 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-22 23:43 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-22 23:43 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-23 19:26 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 19:26 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 20:41 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-23 20:41 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-23 21:58 ` george anzinger
2001-03-23 21:58 ` george anzinger
2001-03-24 5:55 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 5:55 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 8:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-27 14:05 ` Scott F. Kaplan
2001-03-28 0:00 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-30 3:18 ` Scott F. Kaplan
2001-03-30 23:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 22:18 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 22:18 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-24 2:08 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-24 2:08 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-23 1:31 ` Michael Peddemors
2001-03-23 7:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 7:04 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 11:28 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 11:28 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 14:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-23 14:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-23 15:13 ` General 2.4 impressions (was Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init) Jeff Garzik
2001-03-23 15:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-03-23 16:10 ` Adding just a pinch of icache/dcache pressure Jan Harkes
2001-03-23 16:10 ` Jan Harkes
2001-03-23 16:17 ` Andi Kleen
2001-03-23 16:17 ` Andi Kleen
2001-03-23 16:51 ` Jan Harkes
2001-03-23 17:21 ` Guest section DW [this message]
2001-03-23 17:21 ` [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init Guest section DW
2001-03-23 20:18 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-23 20:18 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-24 20:19 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-24 20:19 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-23 23:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-23 23:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-23 21:11 ` José Luis Domingo López
2001-03-23 1:31 ` Michael Peddemors
2001-03-27 15:05 ` Anthony de Boer - USEnet
2002-03-23 0:33 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-23 0:33 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-22 23:53 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 23:53 ` Rik van Riel
2002-03-23 1:21 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-23 1:21 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 0:20 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-23 0:20 ` Stephen Clouse
2002-03-23 1:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-23 1:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 1:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 1:37 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 10:48 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 10:48 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 14:56 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 14:56 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-23 16:43 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 16:43 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-24 5:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 5:57 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 16:35 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-25 16:35 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 20:20 ` Tom Diehl
2001-03-23 23:56 ` Tim Wright
2001-03-24 0:21 ` Tom Diehl
2001-03-23 17:26 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-03-23 17:26 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-03-23 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 18:58 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 18:58 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 13:54 ` [PATCH] OOM handling Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 13:54 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 15:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 15:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 15:20 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 15:20 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 15:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-03-25 17:08 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 17:08 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 15:44 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 15:44 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 15:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 15:47 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 16:36 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 16:36 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-26 21:34 ` Kevin Buhr
2001-03-26 21:34 ` Kevin Buhr
2001-03-26 22:00 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-26 22:00 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-26 2:13 ` Matthew Chappee
2001-03-26 11:33 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-03-26 11:49 ` Jasper Spaans
2001-03-26 16:11 ` Michael Peddemors
2001-03-23 19:45 ` [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init Jonathan Morton
2001-03-23 19:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-23 23:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-23 23:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-03-25 15:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 15:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 20:47 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-03-25 20:47 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-03-25 21:51 ` [PATCH] non-overcommit memory, improved OOM handling, safety margin (was Re: Prevent OOM from killing init) Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 21:51 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-27 15:23 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-27 15:23 ` Pavel Machek
2001-03-23 20:16 ` [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init Jordi Polo
2001-03-24 0:03 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-24 0:03 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-24 7:52 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-24 7:52 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-25 0:32 ` Kurt Garloff
2001-03-25 15:02 ` Sandy Harris
2001-03-25 18:07 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-22 14:53 ` Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-22 14:53 ` Patrick O'Rourke
2001-03-22 19:24 ` Philipp Rumpf
2001-03-22 19:24 ` Philipp Rumpf
2001-03-22 22:20 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-03-22 22:20 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-03-23 17:31 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-23 17:31 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-24 5:54 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 5:54 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 6:55 ` Juha Saarinen
2001-03-24 6:55 ` Juha Saarinen
2001-03-27 8:31 ` Roger Gammans
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-21 23:41 Leif Sawyer
2001-03-22 0:32 ` Kevin Buhr
2001-03-22 11:08 Heusden, Folkert van
2001-03-22 11:08 ` Heusden, Folkert van
[not found] <4605B269DB001E4299157DD1569079D2809930@EXCHANGE03.plaza.ds.adp.com>
2001-03-22 16:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 16:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-22 18:32 ` Christian Bodmer
2001-03-22 18:32 ` Christian Bodmer
2001-03-23 15:08 ` Horst von Brand
2001-03-24 7:48 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-24 10:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-24 18:19 ` Doug Ledford
2001-03-24 22:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-24 23:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 18:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-26 4:40 ` Horst von Brand
2001-03-26 8:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-26 10:01 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-26 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-25 19:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-24 20:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-24 20:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-24 22:11 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 23:36 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 14:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 14:13 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-24 12:42 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-24 15:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2001-03-25 14:10 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-22 23:35 Mikael Pettersson
2001-03-22 23:43 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-27 7:58 ` Helge Hafting
2001-03-23 0:09 Mikael Pettersson
2001-03-23 0:27 ` Andrew Morton
2001-03-23 12:29 ` Mikael Pettersson
2001-03-23 16:24 ` Horst von Brand
2001-03-23 16:49 ` Guest section DW
2001-03-23 17:04 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 9:28 Heusden, Folkert van
2001-03-23 9:28 ` Heusden, Folkert van
2001-03-23 9:48 Only 10 MB/sec with via 82c686b - FIXED Alan Cox
2001-03-23 17:00 ` [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init SodaPop
2001-03-23 18:42 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 20:25 ` SodaPop
2001-03-23 20:33 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 19:19 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-23 18:29 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-23 18:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-24 0:46 ` Tim Wright
2001-03-24 16:48 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-03-25 16:12 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-03-25 16:39 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-23 18:43 ` nick
2001-03-23 19:01 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-23 19:23 ` nick
2001-03-23 22:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-03-23 23:23 ` Stephen E. Clark
2001-03-24 10:40 ` Gérard Roudier
2001-03-23 21:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-25 14:56 ` Marco Colombo
2001-03-23 19:33 Stephen Satchell
2001-03-23 23:15 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-23 23:17 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-24 0:13 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-24 6:58 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-24 12:38 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-24 13:12 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-03-24 1:59 ` Paul Jakma
2001-03-24 1:11 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-24 1:38 Jonathan Morton
2001-03-24 2:30 Andreas Franck
2001-03-24 10:18 Andries.Brouwer
2001-03-24 23:41 Benoit Garnier
2001-03-25 5:45 ` Stephen Satchell
2001-03-25 6:58 ` Stephen Clouse
2001-03-25 14:37 ` Martin Dalecki
2001-03-25 14:32 ` Martin Dalecki
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[not found] ` <l03130315b6e242006a4b@[192.168.239.101]>
2001-03-25 15:47 ` Jonathan Morton
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