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From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff)
To: Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
	Goswin Brederlow <goswin.brederlow@student.uni-tuebingen.de>,
	William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>,
	Matt_Domsch@Dell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4 and 2GB swap partition limit
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:11:47 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200104281411.QAA04406@cave.bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010428093722.A17218@animx.eu.org> from Wakko Warner at "Apr 28, 2001 09:37:22 am"

Wakko Warner wrote:
> > So you've spent almost $200 for RAM, and refuse to spend $4 for 1Gb of
> > swap space. Fine with me. 
 
> I put this much ram into the system to keep from having swap.  I
> still say swap=2x ram is a stupid idea.  I fail to see the logic in
> that.  Disk is much much slower than ram and if you're writing all
> ram to disk that's also slow.
 
> I have a machine with 256mb of ram and no disk.  It runs just fine
> w/o swap. Only reason I even had swap here is if I ran something
> that used up all my memory and it has happened.

> Since when has linux started to be like windows "our way or no way"?

I've ALWAYS said that it's a rule-of-thumb. This means that if you
have a good argument to do it differently, you should surely do so!

I maintain a 32M machine without swap. My workstation has 768Mb RAM
and almost 2G swap:

/home/wolff> free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        770872     766724       4148          0     259816      78308
-/+ buffers/cache:     428600     342272
Swap:      1843212       1840    1841372
/home/wolff> 

That disk space is just sitting there. Never to be used. I spent $400
on the RAM, and I'm now reserving about $8 worth of disk space for
swap. I think that the $8 is well worth it. It keeps my machine
functional a while longer should something go haywire... As I said:
If you don't want to see it that way: Fine with me. 

				Roger. 



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  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-28 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-02 21:23 2.4 and 2GB swap partition limit Matt_Domsch
2001-03-02 23:52 ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-03-03  6:14 ` William T Wilson
2001-03-03 11:14   ` Rogier Wolff
2001-03-08 13:05     ` Goswin Brederlow
2001-04-27 10:51       ` Xavier Bestel
2001-04-27 11:13         ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-27 20:52           ` LA Walsh
2001-04-27 21:44             ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-27 22:06               ` Thomas Dodd
2001-04-27 22:40               ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-27 22:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-29 15:12                 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-27 22:44               ` LA Walsh
2001-04-28  7:47             ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-27 22:22           ` Wakko Warner
2001-04-28 13:17             ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-28 13:37               ` Wakko Warner
2001-04-28 14:11                 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2001-04-28 14:28                   ` J . A . Magallon
2001-04-30 18:12                     ` Alan Cox
2001-05-01 13:00                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-01 16:14                         ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-01 16:35                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 10:54                             ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-02 11:04                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 12:49                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-05-02 13:43                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02  0:28                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-02  0:34                           ` David S. Miller
2001-05-02  0:43                             ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-02  1:14                               ` Roger Larsson
2001-05-02  1:30                                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-01 13:39                       ` Christoph Rohland
2001-05-01 23:25                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-28 18:04                   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-28 21:23                     ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-29  1:43                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-29  9:17                       ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-04-28 18:21                   ` David Lang
2001-04-28 21:25                     ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-30 18:14               ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-04 22:04 Matt_Domsch
2001-03-05  8:58 ` Christoph Rohland
2001-03-05 14:30   ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-05 14:36   ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-05 14:52   ` Matti Aarnio
2001-03-05 13:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-03-05 16:53 Andries.Brouwer
2001-04-30 18:45 Torrey Hoffman
2001-04-30 19:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-30 19:07   ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 19:14     ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-30 21:04       ` Andreas Ferber
2001-05-02 14:31     ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-02 22:17       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-04  8:16         ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-03 14:04 Ishikawa

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