From: R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl (Rogier Wolff)
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"J . A . Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>,
Wakko Warner <wakko@animx.eu.org>,
Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@free.fr>,
Goswin Brederlow <goswin.brederlow@student.uni-tuebingen.de>,
William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>,
Matt_Domsch@Dell.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4 and 2GB swap partition limit
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:54:15 +0200 (MEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200105021054.MAA07283@cave.bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010501173558.U26638@redhat.com> from "Stephen C. Tweedie" at "May 1, 2001 05:35:58 pm"
Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 06:14:54PM +0200, Rogier Wolff wrote:
>
> > Shouldn't the algorithm be:
> >
> > - If (current_access == write )
> > free (swap_page);
> > else
> > map (page, READONLY)
> >
> > and
> > when a write access happens, we fault again, and map free the
> > swap-page as it is now dirty anyway.
>
> That's what 2.2 did. 2.4 doesn't have to.
>
> The trouble is, you really want contiguous virtual memory to remain
> contiguous on swap. Freeing individual pages like this on fault can
> cause a great deal of fragmentation in swap. We'd far rather keep the
> swap page reserved for future use by the same page so that the VM
> region remains contiguous on disk.
>
> That's fine as far as it goes, but the problem happens if you _never_
> free up such pages. We should reap the unused swap page if we run out
> of swap. We don't, and _that_ is the problem --- not the fact that
> the page is left allocated in the first place, but the fact that we
> don't do anything about it once we are short on disk.
first: Thanks for clearing this up for me.
So, there are in fact some more "states" a swap-page can be in:
-(0) free
-(1) allocated, not in mem.
-(2) on swap, valid copy of memory.
-(3) on swap: invalid copy, allocated for fragmentation, can
be freed on demand if we are close to running out of swap.
If we running low on (0) swap-pages we can first start to reap the (3)
pages, and if that runs out, we can start reaping the (2)
pages. Right?
Roger.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-05-02 10:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-03-02 21:23 2.4 and 2GB swap partition limit Matt_Domsch
2001-03-02 23:52 ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-03-03 6:14 ` William T Wilson
2001-03-03 11:14 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-03-08 13:05 ` Goswin Brederlow
2001-04-27 10:51 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-04-27 11:13 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-27 20:52 ` LA Walsh
2001-04-27 21:44 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-27 22:06 ` Thomas Dodd
2001-04-27 22:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-27 22:40 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-29 15:12 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-27 22:44 ` LA Walsh
2001-04-28 7:47 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-27 22:22 ` Wakko Warner
2001-04-28 13:17 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-28 13:37 ` Wakko Warner
2001-04-28 14:11 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-28 14:28 ` J . A . Magallon
2001-04-30 18:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-01 13:00 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-01 16:14 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-01 16:35 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 10:54 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2001-05-02 11:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 12:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-05-02 13:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-02 0:28 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-02 0:34 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-02 0:43 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-02 1:14 ` Roger Larsson
2001-05-02 1:30 ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-01 13:39 ` Christoph Rohland
2001-05-01 23:25 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-28 18:04 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-04-28 21:23 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-29 1:43 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-29 9:17 ` Kenneth Johansson
2001-04-28 18:21 ` David Lang
2001-04-28 21:25 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-04-30 18:14 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-03-04 22:04 Matt_Domsch
2001-03-05 8:58 ` Christoph Rohland
2001-03-05 14:30 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-05 14:36 ` Rik van Riel
2001-03-05 14:52 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-03-05 13:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2001-03-05 16:53 Andries.Brouwer
2001-04-30 18:45 Torrey Hoffman
2001-04-30 19:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-30 19:07 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 19:14 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-04-30 21:04 ` Andreas Ferber
2001-05-02 14:31 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-02 22:17 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-04 8:16 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-03 14:04 Ishikawa
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