From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@linuxpower.cx>
To: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
Cc: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:55:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010429145552.A17155@xi.linuxpower.cx> (raw)
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In-Reply-To: <200104291848.f3TIm6821037@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>; from rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca on Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote:
> Ingo Oeser writes:
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:27:48AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote:
> > > The idea is that the one thing one tends to optimize for new cpus
> > > is the memcpy/memset implementation. What better way to shield
> > > libc from having to be updated for new cpus but to put it into
> > > the kernel in this magic page?
> >
> > Hehe, you have read this MXT patch on linux-mm, too? ;-)
> >
> > There we have 10x faster memmove/memcpy/bzero for 1K blocks
> > granularity (== alignment is 1K and size is multiple of 1K), that
> > is done by the memory controller.
>
> This sounds different to me. Using the memory controller is (should
> be!) a privileged operation, thus it requires a system call. This is
> quite different from code in a magic page, which is excuted entirely
> in user-space. The point of the magic page is to avoid the syscall
> overhead.
Too bad this is a performance hack, otherwise we could place the privlaged
code in the read-only page, allow it to get execute from user space, catch
the exception, notice the EIP and let it continue on.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-29 18:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-28 15:52 X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Ingo Molnar
2001-04-28 19:53 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-28 22:56 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 5:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 11:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-29 11:27 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-29 13:32 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 18:48 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 18:55 ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2001-04-29 19:02 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 19:47 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 19:54 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 20:11 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 20:18 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 22:20 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30 0:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-29 20:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-04-29 22:18 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30 16:46 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-29 19:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-29 23:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-29 16:21 ` dean gaudet
2001-04-29 20:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 22:29 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 21:16 ` Jim Gettys
2001-04-29 21:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 21:47 ` Jim Gettys
2001-05-02 18:18 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-02 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-02 20:55 ` Fabio Riccardi
2001-04-30 7:02 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 7:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-30 7:51 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 14:56 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-30 8:42 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 7:13 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-03 7:44 ` Keith Owens
2001-05-03 10:37 ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-03 15:44 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-07 19:04 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 9:37 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 19:03 ` vsyscalls [was Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)] Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 12:23 ` X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Helge Hafting
2001-05-03 19:09 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 19:50 ` agrawal
2001-05-07 19:07 ` vsyscallRe: " Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 20:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 20:41 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-04 8:06 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-04 17:31 ` dean gaudet
2001-05-04 8:43 ` bert hubert
2001-05-02 10:52 ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-02 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
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