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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)
Date: 2 May 2001 12:34:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9cpnfj$ms3$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0104290914260.14261-100000@twinlark.arctic.org> <200104292116.f3TLGhu07016@pachyderm.pa.dec.com> <20010502211800.X805@mea-ext.zmailer.org>

In article <20010502211800.X805@mea-ext.zmailer.org>,
Matti Aarnio  <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org> wrote:
>On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 02:16:43PM -0700, Jim Gettys wrote:
>...
>> "X is an exercise in avoiding system calls".  I think I said this around
>> 1984-1985.  
>> 				- Jim
>
>I think that applies to all really high-performance servers.

Note that it is definitely not always true.

Linux system calls are reasonably light-weight.  And sometimes trying to
avoid them ends up beaing _more_ work - because you might have to worry
about synchronization and cache coherency in user mode. 

So the rule should be "avoid _unnecessary_ system calls".

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-02 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-28 15:52 X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Ingo Molnar
2001-04-28 19:53 ` Andi Kleen
2001-04-28 22:56   ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29  5:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 11:14       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-29 11:27         ` David S. Miller
2001-04-29 13:32           ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 18:48             ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 18:55               ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 19:02                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 19:47                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 19:54                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 20:11               ` Ingo Oeser
2001-04-29 20:18                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-04-29 22:20                   ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30  0:13                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-29 20:45                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-04-29 22:18                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-30 16:46                 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-29 19:38           ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-29 23:53             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-29 16:21         ` dean gaudet
2001-04-29 20:19           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 22:29             ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-29 21:16           ` Jim Gettys
2001-04-29 21:40             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-29 21:47               ` Jim Gettys
2001-05-02 18:18             ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-02 19:34               ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2001-05-02 20:55                 ` Fabio Riccardi
2001-04-30  7:02           ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30  7:29             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-04-30  7:51               ` David S. Miller
2001-04-30 14:56               ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-04-30  8:42       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03  7:13         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-03  7:44           ` Keith Owens
2001-05-03 10:37             ` Ingo Oeser
2001-05-03 15:44             ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-07 19:04             ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03  9:37           ` Alan Cox
2001-05-07 19:03             ` vsyscalls [was Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)] Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 12:23         ` X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd) Helge Hafting
2001-05-03 19:09           ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 19:50             ` agrawal
2001-05-07 19:07               ` vsyscallRe: " Pavel Machek
2001-05-03 20:19             ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 20:41               ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-05-04  8:06                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-04 17:31                   ` dean gaudet
2001-05-04  8:43               ` bert hubert
2001-05-02 10:52     ` Andi Kleen
2001-05-02 10:53       ` Ingo Molnar

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