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From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	John Stoffel <stoffel@casc.com>,
	cate@dplanet.ch, CML2 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Requirement of make oldconfig [was: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka ...]
Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:07:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010503120709.I31960@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <200105031324.f43DOeaA030953@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl>
In-Reply-To: <200105031324.f43DOeaA030953@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl>; from vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:24:40AM -0400

Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>:
>> No. Every new kernel changes the constraints so every new kernel you have
>> to reconfigure from scratch. That also makes it very hard to be sure you got
>> the results right.
> 
> Really? I've mostly seen symbols added, very rarely did I see constraints
> changed. But that might be just my narrow view on the matter...

It's mine as well.  And I have been paying careful attention to this issue.
 
> > oldconfig has a simple algorithm that works well for current cases
> > 
> > Start at the top of the symbols in file order. If a symbol is new ask the
> > user. If a symbol is now violating a constraint it gets set according to 
> > existing constraints if not it gets set to its old value.
> 
> I understand that to mean: "If it is new and (at least somewhat)
> unconstrained, ask the user.  If fully constrained, take that value
> unconditionally." This is a _very_ different case from a broken
> configuration as a starting point, in which constraints are violated with
> the values as set.

Exactly!  And in fact, my oldconfig already does what Alan prescribes.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

To make inexpensive guns impossible to get is to say that you're
putting a money test on getting a gun.  It's racism in its worst form.
        -- Roy Innis, president of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), 1988

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-03 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-27 23:35 CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..." Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-29 15:12 ` John Stoffel
2001-04-29 22:35   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-29 22:43     ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 16:28     ` John Stoffel
2001-04-30 17:39       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 19:16         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-04-30 19:25           ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-01  9:23             ` Requirement of make oldconfig [was: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka ...] Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2001-05-01 16:31               ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-01 21:35                 ` Olivier Galibert
2001-05-01 22:26                   ` Tom Rini
2001-05-02 13:32           ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2001-05-02 17:49             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-02 20:12               ` John Stoffel
2001-05-03  7:04                 ` Hierarchy doesn't solve the problem Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03  7:34                   ` Urban Widmark
2001-05-03  7:46                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 14:33                       ` Juan Quintela
2001-05-03 16:16                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 22:20                       ` Mike Castle
2001-05-03 12:32                 ` Requirement of make oldconfig [was: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka ...] Horst von Brand
2001-05-03 12:47                   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-03 13:24                     ` Horst von Brand
2001-05-03 14:40                       ` Juan Quintela
2001-05-03 16:07                       ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2001-05-03 16:04                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-05-03 17:36                     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-30  1:36   ` CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..." Anton Altaparmakov
2001-04-30  1:41     ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30  2:13       ` [kbuild-devel] " John Cowan
2001-04-30  2:24       ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30  5:41         ` David Emory Watson
2001-04-30  5:50           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30  6:12             ` David Emory Watson
2001-04-30  6:53               ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30  7:11                 ` [OT] " Jeff Garzik
2001-04-30  7:17                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30 14:25                   ` Kai Henningsen
2001-04-30 15:54                   ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 10:57                 ` John Cowan
2001-04-30 13:30               ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-30 13:29             ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-30  7:05         ` volodya
2001-04-30  7:23           ` Alexander Viro
2001-04-30  7:40             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30  9:09               ` [Moving rapidly offtopic] " Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-04-30 16:16               ` nick
2001-04-30 17:12                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 17:20                   ` [OT] " Jeff Garzik
2001-04-30 17:25                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-30 19:44                   ` [kbuild-devel] " Gerhard Mack
2001-04-30 19:47                     ` nick
2001-04-30  3:26       ` volodya
2001-04-30  7:52     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-04-30  8:03       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-04-30 16:17         ` volodya
2001-04-30  8:13       ` Anton Altaparmakov
     [not found] ` <15084.12830.973535.153706@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2001-04-29 22:41   ` Eric S. Raymond

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