[parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[Jim Buttafuoco]

I am trying to install the .9 CD image via NFS on my 735.  The system
boots into the installer fine.  I partitioned my disk and then the
installed downloaded some packages.  After the download was complete the
screen is displays a message "Installing essential packages".  I have
left it there for over an hour now.  Is this normal.  If not what can I
do...

Thanks
Jim

Re: [parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[Richard Hirst]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:56:03PM -0400, Jim Buttafuoco wrote:
> I am trying to install the .9 CD image via NFS on my 735.  The system
> boots into the installer fine.  I partitioned my disk and then the
> installed downloaded some packages.  After the download was complete the
> screen is displays a message "Installing essential packages".  I have
> left it there for over an hour now.  Is this normal.  If not what can I
> do...

Hi Jim,
  That is not normal, 5 or 10 minutes on a slow machine at most, I'd
guess.

The installer runs a script called debootstrap which downloads the
packages and then unpacks and configures them.  Sounds line something
has hung in the process.

I had it hang on my 715/old, because of problems with the alignment
of locks in glibc 2.2.1.  The installer is based on glibc 2.2.1 at
the moment, although you would typically upgrade to glibc 2.2.3
(which is also on the CD), after install.  That problem is processor
specific, and I wouldn't have expected it to affect the 735.

The base install uses slightly dated packages, because we had to
freeze the base package set early to have any chance of making the
installer work in time for release.

To find at what point it has hung the easiest thing to do is to
invoke debootstrap from a shell, rather than have the installer
do it automatically.  That way you see all the output.

You may just be able to ctrl-c back the the start of the installer,
otherwise start again.  Get to the point where the installer has
mounted your nfs source for you (I selected nfs source, and then
cancel when it asked me to choose the directory to install from).
Now scroll down the menu to 'execute a shell'.

You can use 'mount' and 'ls' to check that your nfs mount is ok.
Now do something like:

  debootstrap sid /target file:/instmnt/debian

/target is where the partition you are installing to is mounted.
There may be one or two prompts you have to hit return on, but
you should see a fairly steady stream of messages until

  I: Successfully completed
  umount: /dev/pts: not found

IIRC, my 715/old hung on unpacking or setting up ncurses5.

There are plenty of error msgs/warnings in the output, because
of unmet dependencies, etc, but debootstrap loops round a
number of times until everything is unpacked and configured and
dependencies are satisfied.

Let us know where it hangs,

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[Richard Hirst]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:12:56PM -0400, Jim Buttafuoco wrote:
> Richard,
> 
> It worked this way,  so I tried it again via the menus,  it still hung
> for a VERY long time and didn't finish.  Other than the debootstrap.log
> log file is there any way to debug this...

I don't have any ideas at the moment, I'll get back you if I think
of something.

If it worked invoking debootstrap manually, I guess you might be able
to complete the install, by selecting 'configure the base system',
'make system bootable' and 'reboot system' from the menu.  Havn't
tried that myself though.

When debootstrap is invoked directly from the installer it writes
a log to /target/tmp/debootstrap.log (i.e. tmp on the installed
system).  Can you get at that somehow and tell us what it contains?
probably just the last few lines will be enough.  You might be able
to ctrl-c back to the menu once it has hung, and then execute a
shell. Otherwise restart the installer, execute a shell, and mount
the partition.

Richard


> 
> Let me know
> Jim
> 
> > On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:56:03PM -0400, Jim Buttafuoco wrote:
> > > I am trying to install the .9 CD image via NFS on my 735.  The
> system
> > > boots into the installer fine.  I partitioned my disk and then the
> > > installed downloaded some packages.  After the download was complete
> the
> > > screen is displays a message "Installing essential packages".  I
> have
> > > left it there for over an hour now.  Is this normal.  If not what
> can I
> > > do...
> > 
> > Hi Jim,
> >   That is not normal, 5 or 10 minutes on a slow machine at most, I'd
> > guess.
> > 
> > The installer runs a script called debootstrap which downloads the
> > packages and then unpacks and configures them.  Sounds line something
> > has hung in the process.
> > 
> > I had it hang on my 715/old, because of problems with the alignment
> > of locks in glibc 2.2.1.  The installer is based on glibc 2.2.1 at
> > the moment, although you would typically upgrade to glibc 2.2.3
> > (which is also on the CD), after install.  That problem is processor
> > specific, and I wouldn't have expected it to affect the 735.
> > 
> > The base install uses slightly dated packages, because we had to
> > freeze the base package set early to have any chance of making the
> > installer work in time for release.
> > 
> > To find at what point it has hung the easiest thing to do is to
> > invoke debootstrap from a shell, rather than have the installer
> > do it automatically.  That way you see all the output.
> > 
> > You may just be able to ctrl-c back the the start of the installer,
> > otherwise start again.  Get to the point where the installer has
> > mounted your nfs source for you (I selected nfs source, and then
> > cancel when it asked me to choose the directory to install from).
> > Now scroll down the menu to 'execute a shell'.
> > 
> > You can use 'mount' and 'ls' to check that your nfs mount is ok.
> > Now do something like:
> > 
> >   debootstrap sid /target file:/instmnt/debian
> > 
> > /target is where the partition you are installing to is mounted.
> > There may be one or two prompts you have to hit return on, but
> > you should see a fairly steady stream of messages until
> > 
> >   I: Successfully completed
> >   umount: /dev/pts: not found
> > 
> > IIRC, my 715/old hung on unpacking or setting up ncurses5.
> > 
> > There are plenty of error msgs/warnings in the output, because
> > of unmet dependencies, etc, but debootstrap loops round a
> > number of times until everything is unpacked and configured and
> > dependencies are satisfied.
> > 
> > Let us know where it hangs,
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

Re: [parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[Richard Hirst]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:31:33PM -0400, Jim Buttafuoco wrote:
> Richard,
> 
> Here is my /var/log/messages file, there are a few errors in it.  

Nothing to worry about here, all the 'expr' and '[' errors are
because of missing features in our build of busybox, so everyone
will be seeing those.

Richard


> Apr 27 14:48:52 (none)  syslogd started: BusyBox v0.51
> (2001.05.18-08:42+0000)
> Apr 27 14:50:57 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: mounting /dev/sda2 at
> /target
> Apr 27 14:51:09 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: mounting /dev/sda4 at
> /target/usr
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: Internet Software
> Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: Internet Software
> Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: Copyright 1995, 1996,
> 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: Copyright 1995, 1996,
> 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium. 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: All rights reserved.
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: All rights reserved. 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]:  
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: Please contribute if
> you find this software useful.
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: Please contribute if
> you find this software useful. 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: For info, please
> visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: For info, please visit
> http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]:  
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: [: 2: unexpected
> operator 
> Apr 27 14:51:26 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: [: 2: unexpected
> operator 
> Apr 27 14:51:27 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: Listening on
> LPF/eth0/08:00:09:48:34:29
> Apr 27 14:51:27 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: Listening on
> LPF/eth0/08:00:09:48:34:29 
> Apr 27 14:51:27 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: BOOTREPLY from
> 192.1.3.13
> Apr 27 14:51:27 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: BOOTREPLY from
> 192.1.3.13 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: expr: not found 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: [: 2: unexpected
> operator 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: [: 2: unexpected
> operator 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) daemon.info dhclient-2.2.x: bound to 192.1.3.113
> -- renewal in 8000 seconds.
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: bound to 192.1.3.113 --
> renewal in 8000 seconds. 
> Apr 27 14:51:28 (none) user.err dbootstrap[34]: The network has been
> successfully configured using DHCP/BOOTP.
> Apr 27 14:51:42 (none) user.info dbootstrap[34]: palo version 0.86
> bame@palinux Fri May 11 16:10:24 MDT 2001 

Re: [parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:16:35PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote:
> I had it hang on my 715/old, because of problems with the alignment
> of locks in glibc 2.2.1.  The installer is based on glibc 2.2.1 at
> the moment, although you would typically upgrade to glibc 2.2.3
> (which is also on the CD), after install.  That problem is processor
> specific, and I wouldn't have expected it to affect the 735.

715/scorpio is PCXT and so are the 735 and 755 workstations.  I'd expect
them to have similar problems.

-- 
Revolutions do not require corporate support.

Re: [parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[Richard Hirst]

On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 08:20:40PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:16:35PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote:
> > I had it hang on my 715/old, because of problems with the alignment
> > of locks in glibc 2.2.1.  The installer is based on glibc 2.2.1 at
> > the moment, although you would typically upgrade to glibc 2.2.3
> > (which is also on the CD), after install.  That problem is processor
> > specific, and I wouldn't have expected it to affect the 735.
> 
> 715/scorpio is PCXT and so are the 735 and 755 workstations.  I'd expect
> them to have similar problems.

You're right, I should have checked the hw database.  Maybe those 3 should be
in the same section on http://parisc-linux.org/release-0.9/systems.html

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] .9 install problems on a 735

[Jim Buttafuoco]

Just to let you know,  I attached a CDROM drive to my 735,  and went
through the install again.  This time I let it sit for about 5 hours. 
It seems to have finished.  I am currently working on the second part of
the install

I will keep you posted
Jim

> On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 08:20:40PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:16:35PM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote:
> > > I had it hang on my 715/old, because of problems with the
alignment
> > > of locks in glibc 2.2.1.  The installer is based on glibc 2.2.1 at
> > > the moment, although you would typically upgrade to glibc 2.2.3
> > > (which is also on the CD), after install.  That problem is
processor
> > > specific, and I wouldn't have expected it to affect the 735.
> > 
> > 715/scorpio is PCXT and so are the 735 and 755 workstations.  I'd
expect
> > them to have similar problems.
> 
> You're right, I should have checked the hw database.  Maybe those 3
should be
> in the same section on
http://parisc-linux.org/release-0.9/systems.html
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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