[parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Mike Werneke]

Hello.

I have an HP Apollo 735/99 workstation with 112MB RAM and a 2GB HD.  The 
external SCSI CDROM is a bit old, but it's Sony from Sun.  I burned the 
32-bit graphical iso this afternoon and it booted into the 2.4.0-pa10 
kernel.   After it's done searching for devices (it finds 13 of them), it 
prints out:

--snip
CPU(s): 1 x PA7100 (PCX-T) at 99.000000 MHz
Kernel command line: HOME=/ TERM=linux root=/dev/ram console=tty0 sti=0 
sti_font=VGA8x16
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
snip--

and then hangs.  Could this be a bad iso image? Or is this a known issue? 
Any help would be greatly appreciated (as is all the effort already done by 
the developers of the parisc port).

Thanks-

Mike Werneke
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Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Andrew Shugg]

Mike,

Do you have a serial terminal?  Or just a null modem cable and a
"borrowed" Windows PC, perhaps?  You could convert the ISO into the
serial-boot one using the sector0 file from the 0.9 release directory
and see if you can boot the box with your serial terminal or null modem
cable to a terminal emulator program on another workstation.

An easy way to test the original ISO image from which you burned the CD
is to mount the .iso file under Linux (any architecture) as a loopback
iso9660 filesystem.  There are also published checksums to compare
against the .iso file.  You can also check the md5sums of the kernel
images on your burnt CD against those within the mounted .iso file.

(Sorry I cannot be more helpful but I have not yet got the 0.9 iso file
burnt onto a CD yet.)

Andrew.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Thomas Bogendoerfer]

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:51:22AM -0000, Mike Werneke wrote:
> --snip
> CPU(s): 1 x PA7100 (PCX-T) at 99.000000 MHz
> Kernel command line: HOME=/ TERM=linux root=/dev/ram console=tty0 sti=0 
> sti_font=VGA8x16
> Console: colour dummy device 80x25
> snip--
> 
> and then hangs.  Could this be a bad iso image? Or is this a known issue? 

no, you are running the sti console kernel on a not supported frame buffer.
Use the 32serial image.

Thomas.

-- 
Crap can work. Given enough thrust pigs will fly, but it's not necessary a
good idea.                                 [ Alexander Viro on linux-kernel ]

Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Michael S.Zick]

Hi Mike
& Everyone

Try this:

Do a manual boot - so that you: boot xxxxxx IPL

Using the command line editor built into IPLBOOT -
Change the:: console=3Dtty0 entry
To: console=3DttyB
Proceed with boot.

Expect: Boot should proceed normally, until -
you get a message about "unable to open initial terminal"

If such is the case, then your model 735 is affected by a
problem reported for other models. =20
Please post your results - the more model specfic
information availabe for the people working the problem,
the better.

At this point, kernel should be running and responding to
other points of access (such as over the network).

Mike (to Mike)


On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Mike Werneke wrote:
> Hello.
>=20
> I have an HP Apollo 735/99 workstation with 112MB RAM and a 2GB HD.  Th=
e=20
> external SCSI CDROM is a bit old, but it's Sony from Sun.  I burned the=
=20
> 32-bit graphical iso this afternoon and it booted into the 2.4.0-pa10=20
> kernel.   After it's done searching for devices (it finds 13 of them), =
it=20
> prints out:
>=20
> --snip
> CPU(s): 1 x PA7100 (PCX-T) at 99.000000 MHz
> Kernel command line: HOME=3D/ TERM=3Dlinux root=3D/dev/ram console=3Dtt=
y0 sti=3D0=20
> sti_font=3DVGA8x16
> Console: colour dummy device 80x25
> snip--
>=20
> and then hangs.  Could this be a bad iso image? Or is this a known issu=
e?=20
> Any help would be greatly appreciated (as is all the effort already don=
e by=20
> the developers of the parisc port).
>=20
> Thanks-
>=20
> Mike Werneke
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Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Michael S.Zick]

Note to all -

The problem exists (on my 720) WITHOUT the frame buffer code
in the image.

Mike

On Thu, 07 Jun 2001, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:51:22AM -0000, Mike Werneke wrote:
> > --snip
> > CPU(s): 1 x PA7100 (PCX-T) at 99.000000 MHz
> > Kernel command line: HOME=3D/ TERM=3Dlinux root=3D/dev/ram console=3D=
tty0 sti=3D0=20
> > sti_font=3DVGA8x16
> > Console: colour dummy device 80x25
> > snip--
> >=20
> > and then hangs.  Could this be a bad iso image? Or is this a known is=
sue?=20
>=20
> no, you are running the sti console kernel on a not supported frame buf=
fer.
> Use the 32serial image.
>=20
> Thomas.
>=20
> --=20
> Crap can work. Given enough thrust pigs will fly, but it's not necessar=
y a
> good idea.                                 [ Alexander Viro on linux-ke=
rnel ]
>=20
>=20
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Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Richard Hirst]

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:05:56AM -0500, Michael S . Zick wrote:
> Hi Mike
> & Everyone
> 
> Try this:
> 
> Do a manual boot - so that you: boot xxxxxx IPL
> 
> Using the command line editor built into IPLBOOT -
> Change the:: console=tty0 entry
> To: console=ttyB
> Proceed with boot.
> 
> Expect: Boot should proceed normally, until -
> you get a message about "unable to open initial terminal"
> 
> If such is the case, then your model 735 is affected by a
> problem reported for other models.  
> Please post your results - the more model specfic
> information availabe for the people working the problem,
> the better.
> 
> At this point, kernel should be running and responding to
> other points of access (such as over the network).

I don't see how this helps at all for people trying to install
from the ISOs.  True the kernel might continue to boot it you set
console=ttyB, but it is hardly going to respond to the network.
It hasn't been given an IP address, isn't running inetd, etc.

If you were to create a configured system somehow (on nfsroot
perhaps) you might be able to boot and access the system via
the network.

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Richard Hirst]

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:15:02AM -0500, Michael S . Zick wrote:
> Note to all -
> 
> The problem exists (on my 720) WITHOUT the frame buffer code
> in the image.

Well, with CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE and CONFIG_FB_STI both unset your kernel
can't be hanging after "Console: colour dummy device 80x25", can it?
So at this point I don't think we know it is the same problem on
735+sti as it is on your 720+serial.

Richard

> Mike
> 
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2001, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:51:22AM -0000, Mike Werneke wrote:
> > > --snip
> > > CPU(s): 1 x PA7100 (PCX-T) at 99.000000 MHz
> > > Kernel command line: HOME=/ TERM=linux root=/dev/ram console=tty0 sti=0 
> > > sti_font=VGA8x16
> > > Console: colour dummy device 80x25
> > > snip--
> > > 
> > > and then hangs.  Could this be a bad iso image? Or is this a known issue? 
> > 
> > no, you are running the sti console kernel on a not supported frame buffer.
> > Use the 32serial image.
> > 
> > Thomas.

Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Michael S.Zick]

Richard

Congrat's (early) -

You may have spotted the problem -

There isn't any "CONFIG_FB_STI" in the config file shipped
with V0.9 iso image.

Nor in any of the few CVS-Kernel tar-zips that I have checked.

Mike

On Fri, 08 Jun 2001, Richard Hirst wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:15:02AM -0500, Michael S . Zick wrote:
> > Note to all -
> >=20
> > The problem exists (on my 720) WITHOUT the frame buffer code
> > in the image.
>=20
> Well, with CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE and CONFIG_FB_STI both unset your kernel
> can't be hanging after "Console: colour dummy device 80x25", can it?
> So at this point I don't think we know it is the same problem on
> 735+sti as it is on your 720+serial.
>=20
> Richard
>=20
> > Mike
> >=20
> > On Thu, 07 Jun 2001, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 03:51:22AM -0000, Mike Werneke wrote:
> > > > --snip
> > > > CPU(s): 1 x PA7100 (PCX-T) at 99.000000 MHz
> > > > Kernel command line: HOME=3D/ TERM=3Dlinux root=3D/dev/ram consol=
e=3Dtty0 sti=3D0=20
> > > > sti_font=3DVGA8x16
> > > > Console: colour dummy device 80x25
> > > > snip--
> > > >=20
> > > > and then hangs.  Could this be a bad iso image? Or is this a know=
n issue?=20
> > >=20
> > > no, you are running the sti console kernel on a not supported frame=
 buffer.
> > > Use the 32serial image.
> > >=20
> > > Thomas.

Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Richard Hirst]

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 10:41:08AM -0500, Michael S . Zick wrote:
> Richard
> 
> Congrat's (early) -
> 
> You may have spotted the problem -
> 
> There isn't any "CONFIG_FB_STI" in the config file shipped
> with V0.9 iso image.

Yes I know, I created those config files ;)

CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE and CONFIG_FB_STI do not both have to be selected.
CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE was developed first, and gives you just a standard
text-style interface, CONFIG_FB_STI gives frame buffer support.

CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE works on more machines that CONFIG_FB_STI at the
moment, so we shipped the 0.9 release with CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE.  As an
example, CONFIG_FB_STI doesn't work on my B180, but CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE
does.  I believe both work on 712.

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] Apollo 735/99 hangs after booting from CDROM

[Helge Deller]

> As an example, CONFIG_FB_STI doesn't work on my B180, but CONFIG_STI_CONSOLE
> does.  I believe both work on 712.

Just for the record: afaik CONFIG_FB_STI only works on newer 715's (715/64, 
715/80, 715/100) machines, but you should be able to safely enable both 
CONFIG_xxx's and will get framebuffer support if available.

Helge