[linux-lvm] Will LVM stay GPL?

[linux-lvm] Will LVM stay GPL?

[Thomas Gebhardt]

Hi,

after the GFS switch to the non-free SPL: can we hope/trust that
LVM will remain GPL'd ?

The SPL FAQ does not address this point. It however, mentions that 
there will be several closed source LVM related utilities this
fall. What about LVM itself?

Thanks for any information, Thomas

Re: [linux-lvm] Will LVM stay GPL?

[Rob Latham]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 02:07:08PM +0200, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> after the GFS switch to the non-free SPL: can we hope/trust that
> LVM will remain GPL'd ?

Thomas:

I don't think you've been paying very close attention :>  
I already asked this question a week ago, and started far too much
discussion: end result, it'd be very hard to change LVM's license.

==rob

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Re: [linux-lvm] Will LVM stay GPL?

[Joe Thornber]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 02:07:08PM +0200, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> after the GFS switch to the non-free SPL: can we hope/trust that
> LVM will remain GPL'd ?
> 
> The SPL FAQ does not address this point. It however, mentions that 
> there will be several closed source LVM related utilities this
> fall. What about LVM itself?

Mike Declerck has already addressed this issue on the mailing list,
but I'll reiterate.  The LVM kernel driver is GPL, the LVM userland
tools are GPL.  We have no intention to change this, and even if we
wanted to we couldn't since lots of people outside Sistina have
contributed.

If it makes people feel happier I will accept patches that add their
names to the copyright notices (assuming they've made significant
contributions).

- Joe

Re: [linux-lvm] Will LVM stay GPL?

[Ralph Jennings]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:55:02PM +0100, Joe Thornber wrote:
> Mike Declerck has already addressed this issue on the mailing list,
> but I'll reiterate.  The LVM kernel driver is GPL, the LVM userland
> tools are GPL.  We have no intention to change this, and even if we
> wanted to we couldn't since lots of people outside Sistina have
> contributed.
> 
> If it makes people feel happier I will accept patches that add their
> names to the copyright notices (assuming they've made significant
> contributions).

Besides, if they *do* decide to switch the licensing, all we have
to do is go back one revision and branch a new LVM project from the
GPL'd code.  So lets wait till that happens, then branch off an
OpenLVM project from the latest GPL released LVM code.  But untill
that happens who cares, they can't pull the carpet out from under
our feet untill they change the license, and untill they decide to
do that (if they decide to), all work is GPL'd, and they're doing a
great job of it.

IANAL of course, but I've been told that you can't make a license
change from GPL to anything else retroactive?!?!?

  -Ralph

RE: [linux-lvm] Will LVM stay GPL?

[Gonyou, Austin]

All, 
  LVM is currently part of Linus tree. So, while you are correct on the
branching bit, it may in-fact not be necessary. GFS is NOT already in Linus
tree, so that could lend some foreshadowing. I agree with all of the points
made below though.

-- 
Austin Gonyou
Systems Architect, CCNA
Coremetrics, Inc.
Phone: 512-796-9023
email: austin@coremetrics.com 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Jennings [mailto:ralph@oro.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 8:10 PM
> To: linux-lvm@sistina.com
> Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Will LVM stay GPL?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 01:55:02PM +0100, Joe Thornber wrote:
> > Mike Declerck has already addressed this issue on the mailing list,
> > but I'll reiterate.  The LVM kernel driver is GPL, the LVM userland
> > tools are GPL.  We have no intention to change this, and even if we
> > wanted to we couldn't since lots of people outside Sistina have
> > contributed.
> > 
> > If it makes people feel happier I will accept patches that add their
> > names to the copyright notices (assuming they've made significant
> > contributions).
> 
> Besides, if they *do* decide to switch the licensing, all we have
> to do is go back one revision and branch a new LVM project from the
> GPL'd code.  So lets wait till that happens, then branch off an
> OpenLVM project from the latest GPL released LVM code.  But untill
> that happens who cares, they can't pull the carpet out from under
> our feet untill they change the license, and untill they decide to
> do that (if they decide to), all work is GPL'd, and they're doing a
> great job of it.
> 
> IANAL of course, but I've been told that you can't make a license
> change from GPL to anything else retroactive?!?!?
> 
>   -Ralph
> 
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