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From: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
To: Alex Bligh - linux-kernel <linux-kernel@alex.org.uk>
Cc: phillips@bonn-fries.net, riel@conectiva.com.br,
	jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu, marcelo@conectiva.com.br,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: page_launder() on 2.4.9/10 issue
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:39:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010906163909.186b8b46.skraw@ithnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <594419049.999788509@[10.132.112.53]>
In-Reply-To: <20010906154212.442bdf7b.skraw@ithnet.com> <594419049.999788509@[10.132.112.53]>

On Thu, 06 Sep 2001 15:01:49 +0100 Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
<linux-kernel@alex.org.uk> wrote:

> Yes, but this is because VM system's targets & pressure calcs do not
> take into account fragmentation of the underlying physical memory.
> IE, in theory you could have half your memory free, but
> not be able to allocate a single 8k block. Nothing would cause
> cache, or InactiveDirty stuff to be written.

Which is obviously not the right way to go. I guess we agree in that.

> You yourself proved this, by switching rsize,wsize to 1k and said
> it all worked fine! (unless I misread your email).

Sorry, misunderstanding: I did not touch rsize/wsize. What I do is to lower fs
action by not letting knfsd walk through the subtrees of a mounted fs. This
leads to less allocs/frees by the fs layer which tend to fail and let knfs fail
afterwards.

> [...]
> I think what you want isn't more memory, its less
> fragmented memory.

This is one important part for sure.

> Or an underlying system which can
> cope with fragmentation.

Well, I'd rather prefer the cure than the dope :-)

Regards, Stephan


  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-06 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-28  3:36 page_launder() on 2.4.9/10 issue Marcelo Tosatti
2001-08-28 18:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-08-28 18:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-30  1:36     ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-03 14:57     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 15:26       ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 15:24         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 17:14           ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 15:53             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 19:33             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 11:52             ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 12:31               ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 12:32                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 12:53                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 13:03                     ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 13:18                       ` Kurt Garloff
2001-09-06 13:23                         ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 13:28                         ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 13:29                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 16:45                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 16:57                           ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 17:22                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 19:25                               ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-06 19:45                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 19:52                                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-07  0:32                                     ` Kurt Garloff
2001-09-06 19:53                                   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-06 17:35                         ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-06 13:10                 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-06 13:23                   ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 13:42                     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-06 14:01                       ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 14:39                         ` Stephan von Krawczynski [this message]
2001-09-06 15:02                           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 15:07                             ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0109061206020.31200-100000@imladris.rielhome.con ectiva>
2001-09-06 15:16                                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 15:10                             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-06 15:18                               ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 17:34                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 17:32                                   ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-06 13:54                     ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-09-06 14:39                       ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 16:20                         ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-09-06 17:33                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 17:51                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 21:01                     ` [RFC] Defragmentation proposal: preventative maintenance and cleanup [LONG] Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07  6:35                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-07  8:58                         ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07  9:15                           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07  9:28                             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2001-09-07 21:38                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-07 21:56                           ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-07 12:30                     ` page_launder() on 2.4.9/10 issue Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-09-04 16:27         ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-04 17:13           ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 15:56             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 17:54               ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 16:37                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 18:49                 ` Alan Cox
2001-09-04 19:39                   ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-04 20:25                     ` Alan Cox
2001-09-06 11:23                       ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-04 19:54                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-04 18:36                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-09-04 20:10                   ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-04 22:04                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-09-05  2:41                       ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-06 11:18                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-04 17:35             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-09-04 20:43           ` Jan Harkes
2001-09-06 11:21             ` Rik van Riel
     [not found] <20010828180108Z16193-32383+2058@humbolt.nl.linux.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108281110540.8754-100000@penguin.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-08-28 19:14   ` Andi Kleen
2001-08-28 20:01     ` David S. Miller
2001-08-28 20:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-28 20:56         ` David S. Miller
2001-08-29 13:48     ` Rik van Riel
2001-08-29 13:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-08-29 14:38         ` Rik van Riel
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2001-09-27 23:14 Samium Gromoff

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