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From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Define conflict between ext3 and raid patches against 2.2.19
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:44:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010921154424.C8738@mikef-linux.matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010916155835.C24067@mikef-linux.matchmail.com> <15271.11056.810538.66237@notabene.cse.unsw.edu.au> <20010919133811.B22773@mikef-linux.matchmail.com> <15273.7576.395258.345452@notabene.cse.unsw.edu.au> <20010921141050.A1946@redhat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010921141050.A1946@redhat.com>

On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 02:10:50PM +0100, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:35:04AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> 
> > However when a RAID rebuild happens, every block on the array is read
> > into the buffer cache (if it isn't already there) and then written
> > back out again.  This defeats the control that ext3 tries to maintain
> > on the buffer cache.
> > 
> > I don't know exactly what large-scale effects this might have.  It
> > could be simply that a crash at the wrong time could leave the
> > filesystem corrupted.
> 
> Immediately after a crash, the fs will be OK.  But during the
> subsequent background raid reconstruction, it can get out of sync
> again.  This can result in silent data loss in some cases, but it is
> also likely to trigger some internal ext3 debugging which detects
> out-of-order data writes, resulting in a kernel panic.
> 

Ok, thanks guys, on ext3-users and lkml.

Now I know that if I want RAID1 or RAID5 with ext3, I'm going to need 2.4...

Test test test...

Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-21 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-16 22:58 Define conflict between ext3 and raid patches against 2.2.19 Mike Fedyk
2001-09-16 23:09 ` Lehmann 
2001-09-17  1:43   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-17  4:42     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-09-18 11:08 ` Neil Brown
2001-09-18 19:24   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-19 20:38   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-19 22:35     ` Neil Brown
2001-09-21 13:10       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-21 22:44         ` Mike Fedyk [this message]
2001-10-01 21:17       ` Hans Reiser

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