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From: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>
Cc: Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux-2.4.10 + ext3
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:04:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010924150402.G14526@turbolinux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109231142060.1078-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <1001280620.3540.33.camel@gromit.house> <9om4ed$1hv$1@penguin.transmeta.com>, <9om4ed$1hv$1@penguin.transmeta.com> <20010923193008.A13982@vitelus.com> <3BAEAC52.677C064C@zip.com.au>, <3BAEAC52.677C064C@zip.com.au> <20010923214507.A15014@vitelus.com> <3BAEC254.2A29B495@zip.com.au> <20010924204946.C9688@kushida.jlokier.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20010924204946.C9688@kushida.jlokier.co.uk>

On Sep 24, 2001  20:49 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > And the main reason for having the same on-disk format is not, IMO, to
> > ease migration between the two filesystems.  That's just a once-off
> > activity.
> 
> I disagree that it's a once-off activity.  I've been known to switch
> between ext2 and ext3 and ext2 and ext3...  just so I can boot old
> kernels such as rescue disks.  It's nice to be able to do this.

Well, you don't need to remove the journal just to boot off of a rescue
disk.  The only requirement is that you have a clean unmount of the ext3
filesystem (although if you DO have a booting problem that can also be a
bit of a challenge).

> Also I don't think resize2fs resizes the journal (but I may be wrong),
> so I've converted ext3 to ext2 to resize a filesystem, then converted
> back.

I think you're wrong on this one.  As long as you unmount the filesystem,
resize2fs should be able to handle it (as will ext2resize).

> I did have a big disaster once when I compiled ext3 into a kernel and
> not ext2 (which I left as a module).  You can guess, it couldn't mount
> the root filesystem.

Yes, this is one reason why removing the journal all the time is a bad
idea.  This won't be a problem at some point in the future when it is
possible for the ext3 code to mount an unjournaled filesystem (ala ext2),
but that still needs a bit of work that isn't very high priority.

Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger  \ "If a man ate a pound of pasta and a pound of antipasto,
                 \  would they cancel out, leaving him still hungry?"
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/               -- Dogbert


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-24 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-23 18:54 Linux-2.4.10 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-23 16:41 ` Linux-2.4.10 Rob Landley
2001-09-23 21:32   ` Linux-2.4.10 André Dahlqvist
2001-09-23 21:54   ` Linux-2.4.10 Alan Cox
2001-09-23 21:30 ` Linux-2.4.10 + ext3 Michael Rothwell
2001-09-23 22:18   ` Gergely Nagy
2001-09-24  2:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-24  2:30     ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-09-24  3:45       ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-24  4:35         ` Simon Fowler
2001-09-24 20:40           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-24  4:45         ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-09-24  5:19           ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-24 19:49             ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 20:22               ` Chris Meadors
2001-09-24 21:57                 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 21:04               ` Andreas Dilger [this message]
2001-09-24 18:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-24 18:25         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-26 16:49     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-27 12:12       ` Jan Kara
2001-09-27 18:37         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-23 21:54 ` Linux-2.4.10 Trond Myklebust
2001-09-23 22:34 ` Linux-2.4.10 David Woodhouse
2001-09-24  6:28   ` Linux-2.4.10 Erik Andersen
2001-09-24  6:48   ` Linux-2.4.10 David Woodhouse
2001-09-24 17:40     ` Linux-2.4.10 Erik Andersen
2001-09-24 17:41     ` Linux-2.4.10 David Woodhouse
2001-09-23 22:40 ` Linux-2.4.10 - necessary patches Eyal Lebedinsky
2001-09-24  0:04   ` Alan Cox
2001-09-24 14:42     ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-09-24  1:25 ` Linux-2.4.10 Matthias Andree
2001-09-24  2:26   ` Linux-2.4.10 Daniel T. Chen
2001-09-24  3:19     ` Linux-2.4.10 Matthias Andree
2001-09-24  2:57   ` Linux-2.4.10 Disconnect
2001-09-24 10:07     ` Linux-2.4.10 Matthias Andree
2001-09-27 12:17     ` Linux-2.4.10 Roeland Th. Jansen
2001-09-24  2:35 ` Linux-2.4.10 Naren Devaiah
2001-09-24  9:37 ` PATCH[2.4.9-pre14] Kill *writeonly* variable Martin Dalecki
2001-09-27 15:23 ` Linux-2.4.10 George R. Kasica
2001-09-27 15:27   ` Linux-2.4.10 Rik van Riel
2001-09-27 15:31   ` Linux-2.4.10 Bernd Petrovitsch
2001-09-27 15:49   ` Linux-2.4.10 John Jasen
2001-09-27 18:23   ` Linux-2.4.10 Petr Baudis

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