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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux-2.4.10 + ext3
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:19:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BAEC254.2A29B495@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0109231142060.1078-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> <1001280620.3540.33.camel@gromit.house> <9om4ed$1hv$1@penguin.transmeta.com>, <9om4ed$1hv$1@penguin.transmeta.com> <20010923193008.A13982@vitelus.com> <3BAEAC52.677C064C@zip.com.au>, <3BAEAC52.677C064C@zip.com.au> <20010923214507.A15014@vitelus.com>

Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> 
> ...
> I simply was hoping for insted of:
> 
>  <*> EXT2 fs
>  <*> EXT3 fs
> 
> (which is required today for most ext3-using people who want to do ext2
> mounts)
> 
> ... there could be:
> 
>  <*> EXT2 fs
>  <*>   EXT3 journalling extensions
> 
> AFAIK this would eliminate a lot of duplicate kernel code for ext3
> users.
> 

mm..  The filesystems could be pretty much identical on the reading
path, but they're quite dissimilar on the writing path. So the
reading-stuff code could be commoned up.

I don't think it'd buy much, though.  They are different filesystems
and the fact that ext3 borrows a lot of ext2 code is a useful
consequence of it having the same on-disk format.

And the main reason for having the same on-disk format is not, IMO, to
ease migration between the two filesystems.  That's just a once-off
activity.  The main reason for preserving compatibility is so that ext3
can leverage e2fsprogs, and the wealth of knowledge and understanding
of ext2 performance and behaviour.

The ext2-compatibility seems to be a bit of a political albatross
for ext3, really - people appear to be of the opinion that the
ext3 design was somehow compromised by the compatibility requirement.
This isn't so - ext3 is a block-level journalled filesystem.  It
could have been based on minixfs, UFS, sysvfs, etc.  Or it could
have been something altogether new.  But I can't think of any benefit
in changing the on-disk format from its current ext2ness.

-

  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-24  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-23 18:54 Linux-2.4.10 Linus Torvalds
2001-09-23 16:41 ` Linux-2.4.10 Rob Landley
2001-09-23 21:32   ` Linux-2.4.10 André Dahlqvist
2001-09-23 21:54   ` Linux-2.4.10 Alan Cox
2001-09-23 21:30 ` Linux-2.4.10 + ext3 Michael Rothwell
2001-09-23 22:18   ` Gergely Nagy
2001-09-24  2:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-24  2:30     ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-09-24  3:45       ` Andrew Morton
2001-09-24  4:35         ` Simon Fowler
2001-09-24 20:40           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-24  4:45         ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-09-24  5:19           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2001-09-24 19:49             ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 20:22               ` Chris Meadors
2001-09-24 21:57                 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-09-24 21:04               ` Andreas Dilger
2001-09-24 18:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-09-24 18:25         ` Alexander Viro
2001-09-26 16:49     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-27 12:12       ` Jan Kara
2001-09-27 18:37         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-09-23 21:54 ` Linux-2.4.10 Trond Myklebust
2001-09-23 22:34 ` Linux-2.4.10 David Woodhouse
2001-09-24  6:28   ` Linux-2.4.10 Erik Andersen
2001-09-24  6:48   ` Linux-2.4.10 David Woodhouse
2001-09-24 17:40     ` Linux-2.4.10 Erik Andersen
2001-09-24 17:41     ` Linux-2.4.10 David Woodhouse
2001-09-23 22:40 ` Linux-2.4.10 - necessary patches Eyal Lebedinsky
2001-09-24  0:04   ` Alan Cox
2001-09-24 14:42     ` Oliver Xymoron
2001-09-24  1:25 ` Linux-2.4.10 Matthias Andree
2001-09-24  2:26   ` Linux-2.4.10 Daniel T. Chen
2001-09-24  3:19     ` Linux-2.4.10 Matthias Andree
2001-09-24  2:57   ` Linux-2.4.10 Disconnect
2001-09-24 10:07     ` Linux-2.4.10 Matthias Andree
2001-09-27 12:17     ` Linux-2.4.10 Roeland Th. Jansen
2001-09-24  2:35 ` Linux-2.4.10 Naren Devaiah
2001-09-24  9:37 ` PATCH[2.4.9-pre14] Kill *writeonly* variable Martin Dalecki
2001-09-27 15:23 ` Linux-2.4.10 George R. Kasica
2001-09-27 15:27   ` Linux-2.4.10 Rik van Riel
2001-09-27 15:31   ` Linux-2.4.10 Bernd Petrovitsch
2001-09-27 15:49   ` Linux-2.4.10 John Jasen
2001-09-27 18:23   ` Linux-2.4.10 Petr Baudis

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