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From: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>
To: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: State of the new config & build system
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:55:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011228165559.N3727@work.bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011228120104.B4077@work.bitmover.com> <7390.1009587002@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <7390.1009587002@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>; from kaos@ocs.com.au on Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:50:02AM +1100

> I also want updates from the dependency back end code, to remove the
> phase 5 processing.  The "extract dependency" code runs after each
> compile step so there can be multiple updates running in parallel.  My
> gut feeling is that it will be faster to have one database server and
> all the back ends talk to that server.  Otherwise each compile will
> have overhead for lock, open, mmap, update, close, write back, unlock.
> A single threading server removes the need for lock/unlock and can sync
> the data to disk after n compiles instead of being forced to do it
> after every compile.
> 
> If your experience says that doing updates from each compile step
> without a server process would not be too slow, let me know.

You certainly don't need a server process.   And as was pointed out
earlier, it's nice not to have them, then you don't have to worry 
about them still being there.

I can write you up a multi writer version using in file locks (which
work over NFS, we had do that for BK and I'm pretty sure it is platform
independent, I can't break it).  We have to do this sort of multi
reader/writer crud in BK all the time and have lots of experience with
locking, breaking locks, waiting, NFS, etc.  Much more experience than
we ever wanted :-)

You don't need to sync to disk at all, let the data sit in memory, that's
why mmap is cool.

Give me a spec for what you want, I'll crank out some code.  Maybe I'll 
finally actually be useful to the kernel after all these years...
-- 
---
Larry McVoy            	 lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitmover.com/lm 

  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-29  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-28  0:24 State of the new config & build system Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28  0:54 ` Dave Jones
2001-12-28  0:57   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28  1:15     ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-28  1:35       ` Keith Owens
2001-12-28  1:37         ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-28  1:41           ` Keith Owens
2001-12-28  1:47             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-28  1:57               ` Keith Owens
2001-12-28  2:01                 ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-28 14:14                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-28 14:16                     ` Keith Owens
2001-12-28 17:14                     ` Christer Weinigel
2001-12-28 17:39                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-29  1:44                         ` Keith Owens
2001-12-29  4:09                           ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-30  3:34                             ` Viktor Rosenfeld
2001-12-30  4:24                               ` Dave Jones
2001-12-30 14:37                                 ` Viktor Rosenfeld
2001-12-29 17:11                           ` Christer Weinigel
2001-12-28 17:43                     ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-28 18:17                       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-28 20:54                       ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-29  9:24                       ` Anton Blanchard
2001-12-29 16:28                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-01-01  4:03                 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-01-01  8:26                   ` Keith Owens
2002-01-06  8:55                     ` [kbuild-devel] " Martin Mares
2002-01-06 22:19                       ` Keith Owens
2002-01-09 17:16                         ` Martin Mares
2002-01-01  8:55                   ` Peter Samuelson
2001-12-28 22:31               ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-28 23:02                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28 14:24             ` Alan Cox
2001-12-28 20:56         ` Kai Germaschewski
2001-12-28 21:16           ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-28 22:17             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-28 23:44               ` Kai Germaschewski
2001-12-30 12:05                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-29  1:27               ` Keith Owens
2001-12-29  1:53                 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-29  1:57                   ` Keith Owens
2001-12-29  2:10                     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-29  4:06                 ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-29 13:32                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-29 20:23                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-29  1:26             ` Keith Owens
2001-12-29  3:58               ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-29  4:21                 ` Mike Castle
2001-12-29  4:44                   ` Keith Owens
2001-12-29  4:52                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2001-12-29 11:10                       ` PORTUGUês EM?? Astinus
2001-12-29  6:59                     ` State of the new config & build system Nicholas Knight
2001-12-29  7:42                       ` Miles Lane
2001-12-29  8:02                         ` Nicholas Knight
2001-12-29  8:11                           ` Mike Castle
2001-12-29  7:41                     ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-29  8:13                       ` Andrew Morton
2001-12-29  9:40                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-01-03 10:46                           ` Pavel Machek
2002-01-03 20:29                             ` Dave Jones
2002-01-03 20:35                               ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-03 20:46                                 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-03 21:30                                   ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-03 21:50                                     ` Keith Owens
2002-01-03 22:11                                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-03 22:44                                         ` Keith Owens
2002-01-04  1:49                                       ` Andreas Bombe
2002-01-04  2:31                                         ` Keith Owens
2002-01-04 21:40                                           ` Andreas Bombe
2001-12-28 22:51           ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-29  2:54             ` Keith Owens
2001-12-29 12:43               ` Kai Germaschewski
2001-12-28  1:22     ` Dave Jones
2001-12-28  1:36       ` [kbuild-devel] " Tom Rini
2001-12-28  1:36         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28  1:38       ` Keith Owens
2001-12-28  1:30   ` [kbuild-devel] " Keith Owens
2001-12-28  9:26   ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-28  9:42     ` Keith Owens
2001-12-28 16:34       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-28 20:01       ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-28 20:38         ` Richard Gooch
2001-12-29  0:50         ` Keith Owens
2001-12-29  0:55           ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2001-12-28 18:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-28 18:24       ` Alan Cox
2001-12-28 22:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-28 22:08           ` [kbuild-devel] " Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28 22:29             ` Larry McVoy
2001-12-28 22:29             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-28 22:58               ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-29  9:18                 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2001-12-31 22:51         ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-31 22:55           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-01-01  1:21             ` Peter Samuelson
2001-12-28 19:08       ` Riley Williams
2001-12-28 19:12       ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28 20:26         ` Alexander Viro
2001-12-28 20:39           ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-30 13:58             ` [kbuild-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2001-12-30 17:50               ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-30 20:53                 ` Hartmut Holz
2001-12-30 20:15               ` Adrian Bunk
2002-01-01  4:29               ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-31 23:32             ` Horst von Brand
2001-12-28 23:20           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-30 11:42             ` [kbuild-devel] " Kai Henningsen
2001-12-31  8:24               ` GOTO Masanori
2001-12-31  6:50           ` GOTO Masanori
2001-12-28 22:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-28 22:31           ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-29 21:24             ` [kbuild-devel] " Tom Rini
2001-12-29 22:43               ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-29 23:12                 ` Tom Rini
2001-12-30  0:22                 ` Russell King
2001-12-30  0:11                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-30  5:39                 ` Rob Landley
2001-12-30 13:59                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-30 17:14             ` David Woodhouse
2001-12-30 17:32               ` Tom Rini
2001-12-30 17:44               ` Russell King
2001-12-28 20:39       ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-28 20:41       ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-28 20:45         ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28 21:19           ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-28 21:12             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28 22:27               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-28 23:05                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2001-12-29  0:59                   ` Legacy Fishtank
2001-12-29 19:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-29  3:21                 ` [kbuild-devel] " Keith Owens
2001-12-28 23:13           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-28 23:04             ` Eric S. Raymond
2001-12-28 23:10             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-12-28 23:12               ` Martin Dalecki
2001-12-29 13:01               ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-28 22:47       ` Martin Dalecki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-28 23:25 Stewart Smith
2001-12-29 12:01 Wayne.Brown

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