[parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[Matt.VanDeWerken]

Hi all:

I've successfully installed 0.9.2 on this machine in the past, but I'm
having trouble installing 0.9.3 on my 735/99.

Here's the steps I went through; note that I don't have a SCSI CDROM to boot
from, so I had to do a bit of a kludge. Sometimes it worked, sometimes other
things happened. Anyway, here's the procedure (note I'm typing this from
memory, so the prompts aren't exact, but the procedure is the same as I used
- I did it about 10 or 15 times, so I'm well versed in it!):

I have 2 external scsi disks, one of which I'll call /dev/sda and the other
I'll call /dev/sdb; these names will not change when I transfer the disks to
the parisc box.

* Put the CD in my i686 Linux box;
* dd if=/dev/cdrom of=parisc-linux.iso;
* dd if=parisc-linux.iso of=/dev/sdb;
* reboot, and removethe external disks, plugging them into the 735/99.
* start minicom.
* Boot 735/99, choose 'b p0' at the prompt.
* Debian installer starts, good.
* Partition 1.3GB disk /dev/sda, as follows:
* 32MB /dev/sda1 -> type f0;
* 960MB /dev/sda2 -> type 83 (ext2fs);
* the rest /dev/sda3 -> type 82 (swap);
* make swap, make e2fs, mount /dev/sda2 as /;
* drop to shell, do "mkdir /inst ; mount /dev/sdb /inst -t iso9660"

Note that this last step only sometimes works. That is, only sometimes does
the install program see the mounted directory.

Anyway, it then proceeds to the "make boot floppy" section, where it asks to
list the files. Often (maybe 5 or 6 times out of 7) it will say "Files not
found in path", where I'll have to drop to the shell, umount the iso image,
then remount it. If it does find the files (and it lists the exact path), I
select the 32-bit one, and then it just hangs. I can leave it there for many
minutes, and it does nothing. 

Any ideas? Maybe I should leave it for a half hour or so... 

Cheers,
Matthew van de Werken
Electronics Engineer
CSIRO Exploration & Mining - Gravity Group
1 Technology Court - Pullenvale - Qld - 4069
ph:  (07) 3327 4685     fax:  (07) 3327 4455
email:  matt.vandewerken@csiro.au

Re: [parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[Richard Hirst]

On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 07:58:22AM +1000, Matt.VanDeWerken@csiro.au wrote:
> Hi all:
> 
> * drop to shell, do "mkdir /inst ; mount /dev/sdb /inst -t iso9660"
> 
> Note that this last step only sometimes works. That is, only sometimes does
> the install program see the mounted directory.

Are you confident that you are terminating the external scsi bus
properly?  0.9.2 ISO used an older slower scsi driver that was possibly
less susceptible to bad termination.

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[Carlos O'Donell Jr.]

> > Hi all:
> > 
> > * drop to shell, do "mkdir /inst ; mount /dev/sdb /inst -t iso9660"
> > 
> > Note that this last step only sometimes works. That is, only sometimes does
> > the install program see the mounted directory.
> 
> Are you confident that you are terminating the external scsi bus
> properly?  0.9.2 ISO used an older slower scsi driver that was possibly
> less susceptible to bad termination.
> 
> Richard
> 
>

I can't get any of the 715/50's to run stably with the newer
SCSI driver. And after testing I can almost pinpoint with 95%
accuracy tha it's the new driver.

I have yet to go about running the latest kernel with the sim700
driver. Though if I get some time this afternoon I will.
(Just spent some time adding diskless 715/50's to our cluster)

Has anyone been able to get SCSI disks that are not from HP
to work on the 715's? (New terminator? Different terminator?)

c. 

Re: [parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[Richard Hirst]

On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:05:48PM -0500, Carlos O'Donell Jr. wrote:
> I can't get any of the 715/50's to run stably with the newer
> SCSI driver. And after testing I can almost pinpoint with 95%
> accuracy tha it's the new driver.

Have you tried hacking the driver to disable tagged commands, or at
least to limit the maximum tagged cmds per device to something small?

Richard

Re: [parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[Tom]

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Carlos O'Donell Jr. wrote:
> I can't get any of the 715/50's to run stably with the newer
> SCSI driver. And after testing I can almost pinpoint with 95%
> accuracy tha it's the new driver.
>
> I have yet to go about running the latest kernel with the sim700
> driver. Though if I get some time this afternoon I will.
> (Just spent some time adding diskless 715/50's to our cluster)
>
> Has anyone been able to get SCSI disks that are not from HP
> to work on the 715's? (New terminator? Different terminator?)

I had a 1G HP /dev/sda and a 4G Micropolis /dev/sdb in my 715/100. Didn't
realize that HP actually expects you to terminate the unused ports on the
back until I was provided a link to my users manual :-) I also had to set
the drive's parity on, and enable the 'wait for start' command.

I also ran an IBM 4G DFHS-S4W drive on it initially. That was quite early
on in the process, though, so I had lots of crashes etc. that I don't know
were related to Debian/HPPA being 'alpha' software or due to the drive :-)

Re: [parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[Aaron Macks]

I've got stock 0.93 running on two 715/33's with:
COMPAQ C2247 (1gb scsi drives) and a seagate of recentish vintage(1gb
1/4 height from an SGI) in a 715/50
no problems
Aaron
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 01:55:57PM -0900, Tom wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Carlos O'Donell Jr. wrote:
> > I can't get any of the 715/50's to run stably with the newer
> > SCSI driver. And after testing I can almost pinpoint with 95%
> > accuracy tha it's the new driver.
> >
> > I have yet to go about running the latest kernel with the sim700
> > driver. Though if I get some time this afternoon I will.
> > (Just spent some time adding diskless 715/50's to our cluster)
> >
> > Has anyone been able to get SCSI disks that are not from HP
> > to work on the 715's? (New terminator? Different terminator?)
> 
> I had a 1G HP /dev/sda and a 4G Micropolis /dev/sdb in my 715/100. Didn't
> realize that HP actually expects you to terminate the unused ports on the
> back until I was provided a link to my users manual :-) I also had to set
> the drive's parity on, and enable the 'wait for start' command.
> 
> I also ran an IBM 4G DFHS-S4W drive on it initially. That was quite early
> on in the process, though, so I had lots of crashes etc. that I don't know
> were related to Debian/HPPA being 'alpha' software or due to the drive :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] Trouble installing 0.9.3 on 735/99

[Christian Suder]

Hmm,

are you able to do a network install, e.g. from NFS ? A while ago when I 
had frequent FS corruptions I had a setup that had vmlinux and the install 
root ramdisk "ready to go" in the f0 partition. Just had to give it the 
correct parameters at the PALO prompt, choose NFS as source and off I was 
leveling the linux partition... ;-)

Basically you should be able to do the same, boot into the installer from 
the second disk and do a regular network install. You would not need to do 
some funky stuff in the shell.

         Christian



At 07:58 AM 1/22/2002 +1000, Matt.VanDeWerken@csiro.au wrote:
>Hi all:
>
>I've successfully installed 0.9.2 on this machine in the past, but I'm
>having trouble installing 0.9.3 on my 735/99.
>
>Here's the steps I went through; note that I don't have a SCSI CDROM to boot
>from, so I had to do a bit of a kludge. Sometimes it worked, sometimes other
>things happened. Anyway, here's the procedure (note I'm typing this from
>memory, so the prompts aren't exact, but the procedure is the same as I used
>- I did it about 10 or 15 times, so I'm well versed in it!):
>
>I have 2 external scsi disks, one of which I'll call /dev/sda and the other
>I'll call /dev/sdb; these names will not change when I transfer the disks to
>the parisc box.
>
>* Put the CD in my i686 Linux box;
>* dd if=/dev/cdrom of=parisc-linux.iso;
>* dd if=parisc-linux.iso of=/dev/sdb;
>* reboot, and removethe external disks, plugging them into the 735/99.
>* start minicom.
>* Boot 735/99, choose 'b p0' at the prompt.
>* Debian installer starts, good.
>* Partition 1.3GB disk /dev/sda, as follows:
>* 32MB /dev/sda1 -> type f0;
>* 960MB /dev/sda2 -> type 83 (ext2fs);
>* the rest /dev/sda3 -> type 82 (swap);
>* make swap, make e2fs, mount /dev/sda2 as /;
>* drop to shell, do "mkdir /inst ; mount /dev/sdb /inst -t iso9660"
>
>Note that this last step only sometimes works. That is, only sometimes does
>the install program see the mounted directory.
>
>Anyway, it then proceeds to the "make boot floppy" section, where it asks to
>list the files. Often (maybe 5 or 6 times out of 7) it will say "Files not
>found in path", where I'll have to drop to the shell, umount the iso image,
>then remount it. If it does find the files (and it lists the exact path), I
>select the 32-bit one, and then it just hangs. I can leave it there for many
>minutes, and it does nothing.
>
>Any ideas? Maybe I should leave it for a half hour or so...
>
>Cheers,
>Matthew van de Werken
>Electronics Engineer
>CSIRO Exploration & Mining - Gravity Group
>1 Technology Court - Pullenvale - Qld - 4069
>ph:  (07) 3327 4685     fax:  (07) 3327 4455
>email:  matt.vandewerken@csiro.au
>
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