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From: "Heinz J . Mauelshagen" <mauelshagen@sistina.com>
To: linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady for beta testing
Date: Fri Feb  1 04:18:01 2002	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020201111304.C15491@sistina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020201110218.B4008@nshhvrnbk013.netshare.ag>; from sgiessler@gmx.net on Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:02:18AM +0100

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:02:18AM +0100, STEFANG(GMX) wrote:
> Hallo list,
> 
> on Fre, 01 Feb 2002, Heinz J . Mauelshagen (mauelshagen@sistina.com) wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:05:56PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> [...]
> > > I've worked with Kevin a few months ago on using EVMS
> > > to recover a filesystem ontop of LVM when a disk went
> > > south and we had no backups
> > 
> > It is quite intersting how many people don't take backups even though
> > almost everybody claims to know that backups are crucial and some of them
> > know that they are still, even though they might have RAID in place.
> 
> You cannot replace Backups with a RAID system...

Which is exactly my point above ;-)

RAID DOES NOT REPLACE BACKUPS!

> a RAID system is
> just fine to help you in cas of a hardware failure, but if a disk
> driver/user/hacker goes wild you are in big trouble 'cause the data
> is gone on all disks.  I had the very same discussion in many
> companies; the MBA guys try to tell you there is no need for a
> backup (Backup is essentially an unneeded "loss center" for them)
> since they have installed a RAID system... ;-)
> 
> CU,
>    Stefan
> -- 
> Stefan Giessler                                       e-mail:
> sgiessler@gmx.net
> 
> artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
> 
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-- 

Regards,
Heinz    -- The LVM Guy --

*** Software bugs are stupid.
    Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them ***

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-01  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-01  4:06 [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady for beta testing STEFANG(GMX)
2002-02-01  4:18 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen [this message]
2002-02-01 10:02   ` Steven Dake
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-01  4:26 STEFANG(GMX)
2002-01-31 13:54 [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready " Steve Pratt
2002-01-31 14:05 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady " Jeff Layton
2002-02-01  3:29   ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
2002-02-01  9:43     ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-05  8:04     ` James Hawtin
2002-02-05  8:09       ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-02-05 11:13       ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ

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