* [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM.
@ 2002-02-07 15:34 Terje Kvernes
2002-02-07 16:10 ` Chad C. Walstrom
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0 siblings, 4 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Terje Kvernes @ 2002-02-07 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-lvm
first, I'm sorry for asking here, but I'm close enough on topic (I
hope :) and I know there are bright heads who deal with linux at
this level out there. I've also looked through google, and at the
kernel IDE-documentation. and the little thing that lingers is
128GiB.
fdisk is only able to address 128GiB, that's rather obvious. if I
make one partition, it's about that size, and if I make two
partitions, the first one 100GiB, the last one will only be about
28GiB. if I pvcreate the device itself it helps a little, but not
much. /proc/lvm/global then returns the size as 134152192KB.
now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM,
but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've
missed?
the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1
from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be
highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and
stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat.
--
Terje
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 15:34 [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM Terje Kvernes @ 2002-02-07 16:10 ` Chad C. Walstrom 2002-02-07 21:43 ` Terje Kvernes 2002-02-07 16:14 ` James Hawtin ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Chad C. Walstrom @ 2002-02-07 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit, Size: 1472 bytes --] On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:33:46PM +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > fdisk is only able to address 128GiB, that's rather obvious. if I > make one partition, Why make a partition at all? Why not just make a physical volume out of the whole disk? NAME pvcreate - initialize a disk or partition for use by LVM SYNOPSIS pvcreate [-d|--debug] [-f[f]|--force [--force]] [-y|--yes] [-h|--help] [-v|--verbose] [-V|--version] PhysicalVolume [PhysicalVolume...] DESCRIPTION pvcreate initializes PhysicalVolume for later use by the Logical Volume Manager (LVM). Each PhysicalVolume can be a disk partition, whole disk, meta device, or loopback file. For DOS disk partitions, the par tition id must be set to 0x8e using fdisk(8), cfdisk(8), or a equiva lent. For whole disk devices only the partition table must be erased, which will effectively destroy all data on that disk. This can be done by zeroing the first sector with: dd if=/dev/zero of=PhysicalVolume bs=512 count=1 Continue with vgcreate(8) to create a new volume group on PhysicalVol ume, or vgextend(8) to add PhysicalVolume to an existing volume group. -- Chad Walstrom <chewie@wookimus.net> | a.k.a. ^chewie http://www.wookimus.net/ | s.k.a. gunnarr Get my public key, ICQ#, etc. $(mailx -s 'get info' chewie@wookimus.net) [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 16:10 ` Chad C. Walstrom @ 2002-02-07 21:43 ` Terje Kvernes 2002-02-08 3:20 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Terje Kvernes @ 2002-02-07 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm "Chad C. Walstrom" <chewie@wookimus.net> writes: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:33:46PM +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > > fdisk is only able to address 128GiB, that's rather obvious. if I > > make one partition, > > Why make a partition at all? Why not just make a physical volume out of > the whole disk? like I said, if I pvcreate the device itself, /dev/hdc, /proc/lvm/global then returns the size as 134152192KB. so it's still off. :/ -- Terje ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 21:43 ` Terje Kvernes @ 2002-02-08 3:20 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Heinz J . Mauelshagen @ 2002-02-08 3:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 04:42:34AM +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > "Chad C. Walstrom" <chewie@wookimus.net> writes: > > > On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:33:46PM +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > > > fdisk is only able to address 128GiB, that's rather obvious. if I > > > make one partition, > > > > Why make a partition at all? Why not just make a physical volume out of > > the whole disk? > > like I said, if I pvcreate the device itself, /dev/hdc, > /proc/lvm/global then returns the size as 134152192KB. so it's > still off. :/ That's just "134152192 KB / 1024 MB/KB / 1024 GB/MB = 127.937 GB" which is close enough to 128 GB ;-) > > -- > Terje > > _______________________________________________ > linux-lvm mailing list > linux-lvm@sistina.com > http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html -- Regards, Heinz -- The LVM Guy -- *** Software bugs are stupid. Nevertheless it needs not so stupid people to solve them *** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Heinz Mauelshagen Sistina Software Inc. Senior Consultant/Developer Am Sonnenhang 11 56242 Marienrachdorf Germany Mauelshagen@Sistina.com +49 2626 141200 FAX 924446 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 15:34 [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM Terje Kvernes 2002-02-07 16:10 ` Chad C. Walstrom @ 2002-02-07 16:14 ` James Hawtin 2002-02-07 21:48 ` Terje Kvernes 2002-02-07 16:18 ` Andreas Dilger 2002-02-08 2:47 ` William Blunn 3 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: James Hawtin @ 2002-02-07 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm On 7 Feb 2002, Terje Kvernes wrote: > the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 > from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be > highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and > stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. > Whats your Extent size? if its the default 4MB that allows you to address 256GB in that volume group.... Please do a vgdisplay -v You only use that disk for linux? do you need it to be partitioned at all? Do you want the whole of the disk to be available under LVM? You could do your pvcreate on the whole device that would get arround partition table addressing problems. James ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 16:14 ` James Hawtin @ 2002-02-07 21:48 ` Terje Kvernes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Terje Kvernes @ 2002-02-07 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm James Hawtin <oolon@ankh.org> writes: > On 7 Feb 2002, Terje Kvernes wrote: > > > the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 > > from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will > > be highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, > > and stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that > > neat. > > > > Whats your Extent size? 32MB. > if its the default 4MB that allows you to address 256GB in that > volume group.... Please do a vgdisplay -v --- Volume group --- VG Name stuff VG Access read/write VG Status available/resizable VG # 0 MAX LV 255 Cur LV 1 Open LV 1 MAX LV Size 1.00 TB Max PV 255 Cur PV 3 Act PV 3 VG Size 302.66 GB PE Size 32.00 MB Total PE 9685 Alloc PE / Size 3204 / 100.12 GB Free PE / Size 6481 / 202.53 GB VG UUID 9FXZZm-T2nv-dw2p-NoRj-9VeI-GVJJ-jzzbCD --- Logical volume --- LV Name /dev/stuff/test VG Name stuff LV Write Access read/write LV Status available LV # 1 # open 1 LV Size 100.12 GB Current LE 3204 Allocated LE 3204 Allocation next free Read ahead sectors 10000 Block device 58:0 --- Physical volumes --- PV Name (#) /dev/hdc (3) PV Status available / allocatable Total PE / Free PE 4094 / 4094 PV Name (#) /dev/hda4 (1) PV Status available / allocatable Total PE / Free PE 2784 / 0 PV Name (#) /dev/hdb4 (2) PV Status available / allocatable Total PE / Free PE 2807 / 2387 I only get 4094 extents on /dev/hdc. > You only use that disk for linux? nope. I have two other 100GB drives in the box. > do you need it to be partitioned at all? nope. > Do you want the whole of the disk to be available under LVM? yes, please. :) > You could do your pvcreate on the whole device that would get > arround partition table addressing problems. oddly enough, that doesn't seem to work either. unless 134GB is 160GiB. and unless my math is _very_ off, this seems strange. :) -- Terje ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 15:34 [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM Terje Kvernes 2002-02-07 16:10 ` Chad C. Walstrom 2002-02-07 16:14 ` James Hawtin @ 2002-02-07 16:18 ` Andreas Dilger 2002-02-07 16:42 ` John Moser 2002-02-07 22:08 ` Terje Kvernes 2002-02-08 2:47 ` William Blunn 3 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Andreas Dilger @ 2002-02-07 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] > > now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM, > but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've > missed? > > the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 > from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be > highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and > stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* RE: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 16:18 ` Andreas Dilger @ 2002-02-07 16:42 ` John Moser 2002-02-07 16:50 ` Petro 2002-02-07 17:03 ` Andreas Dilger 2002-02-07 22:08 ` Terje Kvernes 1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: John Moser @ 2002-02-07 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm Is this specific to 2.4.X kernels? I'm running 2.5.0, and I just noticed that the 160 gig drives I was using are also partitioned at only 128Gigs. -John Moser -----Original Message----- From: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com [mailto:linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com]On Behalf Of Andreas Dilger Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:18 PM To: linux-lvm@sistina.com Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] > > now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM, > but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've > missed? > > the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 > from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be > highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and > stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@sistina.com http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 16:42 ` John Moser @ 2002-02-07 16:50 ` Petro 2002-02-07 17:07 ` Kirby C. Bohling 2002-02-07 17:03 ` Andreas Dilger 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Petro @ 2002-02-07 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 04:45:03PM -0600, John Moser wrote: > Is this specific to 2.4.X kernels? I'm running 2.5.0, and I just noticed > that the 160 gig drives I was using are also partitioned at only 128Gigs. No, it's at the IDE driver level. There are patches to get around this that are being considered for the mainstream kernel (Andrei H. I believe). Brave man running 2.5.0, the dot-zero release of a development kernel. > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com [mailto:linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com]On > Behalf Of Andreas Dilger > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:18 PM > To: linux-lvm@sistina.com > Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. > > > On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > > [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] > > > > now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM, > > but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've > > missed? > > > > the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 > > from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be > > highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and > > stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. > > This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's > IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. > > Cheers, Andreas > -- > Andreas Dilger > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ > http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-lvm mailing list > linux-lvm@sistina.com > http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-lvm mailing list > linux-lvm@sistina.com > http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html -- Share and Enjoy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 16:50 ` Petro @ 2002-02-07 17:07 ` Kirby C. Bohling 2002-02-07 17:47 ` Petro 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Kirby C. Bohling @ 2002-02-07 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm Why is he brave, it is just a converted 2.4.15-pre5 with a change to the version number if I remember correctly that has a filesystem bug when you umount during a reboot. As long as he doesn't reboot and/or umount his data is save. :-) Kirby bzcat patch-2.4.15-to-2.5.0.bz2 diff -urN linux-2.4.15/Makefile linux-2.5.0/Makefile --- linux-2.4.15/Makefile Thu Nov 22 11:22:58 2001 +++ linux-2.5.0/Makefile Thu Nov 22 22:23:44 2001 @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ VERSION = 2 -PATCHLEVEL = 4 -SUBLEVEL = 15 -EXTRAVERSION =-greased-turkey +PATCHLEVEL = 5 +SUBLEVEL = 0 +EXTRAVERSION = KERNELRELEASE=$(VERSION).$(PATCHLEVEL).$(SUBLEVEL)$(EXTRAVERSION) Petro wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 04:45:03PM -0600, John Moser wrote: > >>Is this specific to 2.4.X kernels? I'm running 2.5.0, and I just noticed >>that the 160 gig drives I was using are also partitioned at only 128Gigs. >> > > No, it's at the IDE driver level. There are patches to get around > this that are being considered for the mainstream kernel (Andrei H. > I believe). > > Brave man running 2.5.0, the dot-zero release of a development > kernel. > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com [mailto:linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com]On >>Behalf Of Andreas Dilger >>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:18 PM >>To: linux-lvm@sistina.com >>Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. >> >> >>On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: >> >>> [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] >>> >>> now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM, >>> but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've >>> missed? >>> >>> the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 >>> from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be >>> highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and >>> stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. >>> >>This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's >>IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. >> >>Cheers, Andreas >>-- >>Andreas Dilger >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ >>http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>linux-lvm mailing list >>linux-lvm@sistina.com >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>linux-lvm mailing list >>linux-lvm@sistina.com >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 17:07 ` Kirby C. Bohling @ 2002-02-07 17:47 ` Petro 2002-02-07 18:31 ` Anders Widman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Petro @ 2002-02-07 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 05:05:27PM -0600, Kirby C. Bohling wrote: > Why is he brave, it is just a converted 2.4.15-pre5 with a change to the > version number if I remember correctly that has a filesystem bug when > you umount during a reboot. As long as he doesn't reboot and/or umount > his data is save. :-) I thought there were more changes than that. 2.5.x is the development series, not the stable series. > Kirby > > bzcat patch-2.4.15-to-2.5.0.bz2 > > diff -urN linux-2.4.15/Makefile linux-2.5.0/Makefile > --- linux-2.4.15/Makefile Thu Nov 22 11:22:58 2001 > +++ linux-2.5.0/Makefile Thu Nov 22 22:23:44 2001 > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ > VERSION = 2 > -PATCHLEVEL = 4 > -SUBLEVEL = 15 > -EXTRAVERSION =-greased-turkey > +PATCHLEVEL = 5 > +SUBLEVEL = 0 > +EXTRAVERSION = > > KERNELRELEASE=$(VERSION).$(PATCHLEVEL).$(SUBLEVEL)$(EXTRAVERSION) > > > Petro wrote: > >On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 04:45:03PM -0600, John Moser wrote: > > > >>Is this specific to 2.4.X kernels? I'm running 2.5.0, and I just noticed > >>that the 160 gig drives I was using are also partitioned at only 128Gigs. > >> > > > > No, it's at the IDE driver level. There are patches to get around > > this that are being considered for the mainstream kernel (Andrei H. > > I believe). > > > > Brave man running 2.5.0, the dot-zero release of a development > > kernel. > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com [mailto:linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com]On > >>Behalf Of Andreas Dilger > >>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:18 PM > >>To: linux-lvm@sistina.com > >>Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. > >> > >> > >>On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > >> > >>> [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] > >>> > >>> now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM, > >>> but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've > >>> missed? > >>> > >>> the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 > >>> from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be > >>> highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and > >>> stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. > >>> > >>This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's > >>IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. > >> > >>Cheers, Andreas > >>-- > >>Andreas Dilger > >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ > >>http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>linux-lvm mailing list > >>linux-lvm@sistina.com > >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>linux-lvm mailing list > >>linux-lvm@sistina.com > >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-lvm mailing list > linux-lvm@sistina.com > http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html -- Share and Enjoy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 17:47 ` Petro @ 2002-02-07 18:31 ` Anders Widman 2002-02-07 18:46 ` Petro 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Anders Widman @ 2002-02-07 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm 2002-02-08 00:47:16, Petro <petro@auctionwatch.com> wrote: >On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 05:05:27PM -0600, Kirby C. Bohling wrote: >> Why is he brave, it is just a converted 2.4.15-pre5 with a change to the >> version number if I remember correctly that has a filesystem bug when >> you umount during a reboot. As long as he doesn't reboot and/or umount >> his data is save. :-) > > I thought there were more changes than that. > > 2.5.x is the development series, not the stable series. Not that the 2.4.x series is very stable anyway, with problems of different sorts (APIC for example).. //Anders > >> Kirby >> >> bzcat patch-2.4.15-to-2.5.0.bz2 >> >> diff -urN linux-2.4.15/Makefile linux-2.5.0/Makefile >> --- linux-2.4.15/Makefile Thu Nov 22 11:22:58 2001 >> +++ linux-2.5.0/Makefile Thu Nov 22 22:23:44 2001 >> @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ >> VERSION = 2 >> -PATCHLEVEL = 4 >> -SUBLEVEL = 15 >> -EXTRAVERSION =-greased-turkey >> +PATCHLEVEL = 5 >> +SUBLEVEL = 0 >> +EXTRAVERSION = >> >> KERNELRELEASE=$(VERSION).$(PATCHLEVEL).$(SUBLEVEL)$(EXTRAVERSION) >> >> >> Petro wrote: >> >On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 04:45:03PM -0600, John Moser wrote: >> > >> >>Is this specific to 2.4.X kernels? I'm running 2.5.0, and I just noticed >> >>that the 160 gig drives I was using are also partitioned at only 128Gigs. >> >> >> > >> > No, it's at the IDE driver level. There are patches to get around >> > this that are being considered for the mainstream kernel (Andrei H. >> > I believe). >> > >> > Brave man running 2.5.0, the dot-zero release of a development >> > kernel. >> > >> > >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com [mailto:linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com]On >> >>Behalf Of Andreas Dilger >> >>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:18 PM >> >>To: linux-lvm@sistina.com >> >>Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. >> >> >> >> >> >>On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: >> >> >> >>> [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] >> >>> >> >>> now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM, >> >>> but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've >> >>> missed? >> >>> >> >>> the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 >> >>> from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be >> >>> highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and >> >>> stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. >> >>> >> >>This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's >> >>IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. >> >> >> >>Cheers, Andreas >> >>-- >> >>Andreas Dilger >> >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ >> >>http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>linux-lvm mailing list >> >>linux-lvm@sistina.com >> >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm >> >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>linux-lvm mailing list >> >>linux-lvm@sistina.com >> >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm >> >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-lvm mailing list >> linux-lvm@sistina.com >> http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm >> read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > >-- >Share and Enjoy. > >_______________________________________________ >linux-lvm mailing list >linux-lvm@sistina.com >http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm >read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 18:31 ` Anders Widman @ 2002-02-07 18:46 ` Petro 2002-02-08 4:18 ` Anders Widman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Petro @ 2002-02-07 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 01:30:50AM +0100, Anders Widman wrote: > 2002-02-08 00:47:16, Petro <petro@auctionwatch.com> wrote: > > >On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 05:05:27PM -0600, Kirby C. Bohling wrote: > >> Why is he brave, it is just a converted 2.4.15-pre5 with a change to the > >> version number if I remember correctly that has a filesystem bug when > >> you umount during a reboot. As long as he doesn't reboot and/or umount > >> his data is save. :-) > > I thought there were more changes than that. > > 2.5.x is the development series, not the stable series. > Not that the 2.4.x series is very stable anyway, with problems of different sorts (APIC for example).. And problems with the high memory VM (DAMHIK), and... But if the stable series isn't, how is the unstable going to be better? > //Anders > > > >> Kirby > >> > >> bzcat patch-2.4.15-to-2.5.0.bz2 > >> > >> diff -urN linux-2.4.15/Makefile linux-2.5.0/Makefile > >> --- linux-2.4.15/Makefile Thu Nov 22 11:22:58 2001 > >> +++ linux-2.5.0/Makefile Thu Nov 22 22:23:44 2001 > >> @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ > >> VERSION = 2 > >> -PATCHLEVEL = 4 > >> -SUBLEVEL = 15 > >> -EXTRAVERSION =-greased-turkey > >> +PATCHLEVEL = 5 > >> +SUBLEVEL = 0 > >> +EXTRAVERSION = > >> > >> KERNELRELEASE=$(VERSION).$(PATCHLEVEL).$(SUBLEVEL)$(EXTRAVERSION) > >> > >> > >> Petro wrote: > >> >On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 04:45:03PM -0600, John Moser wrote: > >> > > >> >>Is this specific to 2.4.X kernels? I'm running 2.5.0, and I just noticed > >> >>that the 160 gig drives I was using are also partitioned at only 128Gigs. > >> >> > >> > > >> > No, it's at the IDE driver level. There are patches to get around > >> > this that are being considered for the mainstream kernel (Andrei H. > >> > I believe). > >> > > >> > Brave man running 2.5.0, the dot-zero release of a development > >> > kernel. > >> > > >> > > >> >>-----Original Message----- > >> >>From: linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com [mailto:linux-lvm-admin@sistina.com]On > >> >>Behalf Of Andreas Dilger > >> >>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:18 PM > >> >>To: linux-lvm@sistina.com > >> >>Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] > >> >>> > >> >>> now, I've added SCSI-devices that where > 500GiB with ease into LVM, > >> >>> but here I stumble. is there some easy solution out there that I've > >> >>> missed? > >> >>> > >> >>> the box currently runs vanilla 2.4.16, only patched with LVM-1.0.1 > >> >>> from 26/11. patches or anything people want to toss at this will be > >> >>> highly appreciated. we have two of these beasts from Maxtor, and > >> >>> stand to loose about 60GiB of space, which isn't all that neat. > >> >>> > >> >>This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's > >> >>IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. > >> >> > >> >>Cheers, Andreas > >> >>-- > >> >>Andreas Dilger > >> >>http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ > >> >>http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ > >> >>linux-lvm mailing list > >> >>linux-lvm@sistina.com > >> >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > >> >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>_______________________________________________ > >> >>linux-lvm mailing list > >> >>linux-lvm@sistina.com > >> >>http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > >> >>read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> linux-lvm mailing list > >> linux-lvm@sistina.com > >> http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > >> read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > > > >-- > >Share and Enjoy. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >linux-lvm mailing list > >linux-lvm@sistina.com > >http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > >read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-lvm mailing list > linux-lvm@sistina.com > http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm > read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html -- Share and Enjoy. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 18:46 ` Petro @ 2002-02-08 4:18 ` Anders Widman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Anders Widman @ 2002-02-08 4:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm 2002-02-08 01:45:50, Petro <petro@auctionwatch.com> wrote: >On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 01:30:50AM +0100, Anders Widman wrote: >> 2002-02-08 00:47:16, Petro <petro@auctionwatch.com> wrote: >> >> >On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 05:05:27PM -0600, Kirby C. Bohling wrote: >> >> Why is he brave, it is just a converted 2.4.15-pre5 with a change to the >> >> version number if I remember correctly that has a filesystem bug when >> >> you umount during a reboot. As long as he doesn't reboot and/or umount >> >> his data is save. :-) >> > I thought there were more changes than that. >> > 2.5.x is the development series, not the stable series. >> Not that the 2.4.x series is very stable anyway, with problems of different sorts (APIC for example).. > > And problems with the high memory VM (DAMHIK), and... > > But if the stable series isn't, how is the unstable going to be > better? > Of course they are not. But if you are having problems with one kernel and can't get around it it might be a good idea to test another kernel... Oh, by the way... have a look at http://www.linux-ide.org/ -... //Anders ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 16:42 ` John Moser 2002-02-07 16:50 ` Petro @ 2002-02-07 17:03 ` Andreas Dilger 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Andreas Dilger @ 2002-02-07 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Moser; +Cc: linux-lvm On Feb 07, 2002 16:45 -0600, John Moser wrote: > Is this specific to 2.4.X kernels? I'm running 2.5.0, and I just noticed > that the 160 gig drives I was using are also partitioned at only 128Gigs. The IDE stuff didn't go into the 2.5 tree until 2.5.2-something. > Andreas Dilger wrote: > On Feb 07, 2002 22:33 +0100, Terje Kvernes wrote: > > [ Re: IDE 128GB disk limits ] > > This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre Hedrik's > IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Dilger http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2resize/ http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 16:18 ` Andreas Dilger 2002-02-07 16:42 ` John Moser @ 2002-02-07 22:08 ` Terje Kvernes 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Terje Kvernes @ 2002-02-07 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com> writes: > This is a kernel IDE driver limit. You need to patch with Andre > Hedrik's IDE patches to support IDE devices over this size. at least I'm not the only one who can't spell his name when looking for the patches, "Andre Hedrick". right then. I'm patching and compiling now. aah... thank you. 152.62GB. now that looks more like the sort of Gib / GB tradeoff I can live with. -- Terje ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM. 2002-02-07 15:34 [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM Terje Kvernes ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2002-02-07 16:18 ` Andreas Dilger @ 2002-02-08 2:47 ` William Blunn 3 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: William Blunn @ 2002-02-08 2:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-lvm; +Cc: terjekv > first, I'm sorry for asking here, but I'm close enough on topic (I > hope :) and I know there are bright heads who deal with linux at > this level out there. I've also looked through google, and at the > kernel IDE-documentation. and the little thing that lingers is > 128GiB. > > fdisk is only able to address 128GiB, that's rather obvious. > ... > if I pvcreate the device itself it helps a little, but not > much. No-one seems to have mentioned the nub of the issue: /dev/hda would have been 128 GiB in size. So trying different tools/techniques won't help you one bit!!! The problem is the IDE limit. IDE has 28 bits to address the block. The block is 2^9 bytes. So the maximum device size is 2^(28+9) B = 128 GiB ~= 137 GB. Maxtor have addressed this limit with their "Big Drive" scheme (http://www.maxtor.com/products/bigdrive/ - read the white paper), which extends the address size from 28 to 48 bits. This extends the maximum device size to 2^(48+9) B = 128 PiB ~= 144 PB ~= 144,115,188 GB This of course means an updated version of the ATA interface specification, which in turn means that you need different software drivers. In the Linux world this means you need kernel patches in order to access the portion above 128 GiB. I am very pleased to learn that Andrei has made a patch. Now I can cheerfully go out and buy 160 GB drives knowing that I can get Linux to see the whole drive - cool! One wonders how long it will take the other operating systems to catch up with Linux (again) :-) Bill -- William H. Blunn - bill@tao-group.com - Developer Support Tao 62/63 Suttons Business Park, Earley, READING, RG6 1AZ, United Kingdom Tel: +44 118 901 2999 - Fax: +44 118 901 2963 - http://tao-group.com/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2002-02-08 4:18 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 17+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2002-02-07 15:34 [linux-lvm] using 160GB IDE drives under linux with LVM Terje Kvernes 2002-02-07 16:10 ` Chad C. Walstrom 2002-02-07 21:43 ` Terje Kvernes 2002-02-08 3:20 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen 2002-02-07 16:14 ` James Hawtin 2002-02-07 21:48 ` Terje Kvernes 2002-02-07 16:18 ` Andreas Dilger 2002-02-07 16:42 ` John Moser 2002-02-07 16:50 ` Petro 2002-02-07 17:07 ` Kirby C. Bohling 2002-02-07 17:47 ` Petro 2002-02-07 18:31 ` Anders Widman 2002-02-07 18:46 ` Petro 2002-02-08 4:18 ` Anders Widman 2002-02-07 17:03 ` Andreas Dilger 2002-02-07 22:08 ` Terje Kvernes 2002-02-08 2:47 ` William Blunn
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