help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

[Robert Joop]

alsa's ad1816a driver doesn't find my card.
i've ISAPNP turned on.
the card is a Highscreen Sound-Boostar 32 Wave 3D, it doesn't seem to
have an entry in card-ad1816a.c.
the entries in snd_ad1816a_pnpids[] look rather esoteric and i haven't
found any documentation on adding an entry.
how do i collect the necessary information?
is it sufficient just adding an entry to the array?

the card has an AD1816A and two DSP chips on it.

(btw, with kernel 2.2.x's sb driver the card worked, but 2.4.18's sb it
hangs the computer.
and kernel 2.4.18's ad1816 driver doesn't detect the card either.)

rj

Re: help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

[Robert Joop]

On 02-03-30 00:04:21 MET, Robert Joop wrote:
> alsa's ad1816a driver doesn't find my card.
> i've ISAPNP turned on.
> the card is a Highscreen Sound-Boostar 32 Wave 3D, it doesn't seem to
> have an entry in card-ad1816a.c.
> the entries in snd_ad1816a_pnpids[] look rather esoteric and i haven't
> found any documentation on adding an entry.
> how do i collect the necessary information?
> is it sufficient just adding an entry to the array?
> 
> the card has an AD1816A and two DSP chips on it.
> 
> (btw, with kernel 2.2.x's sb driver the card worked, but 2.4.18's sb it
> hangs the computer.
> and kernel 2.4.18's ad1816 driver doesn't detect the card either.)

btw, i'm using debian's alsa-source 0.9+0beta10-6 package.

what makes me wonder is:
- at boot time, the BIOS says it initializes the plug and play cards
  and detects the sound card, it prints its name.
- but the linux ISA PNP does not seem to detect it:
  Mar 30 19:20:13 moonbow kernel: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
  Mar 30 19:20:13 moonbow kernel: isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
- nor does the soundcard driver:
  Mar 30 19:20:18 moonbow kernel: ALSA card-ad1816a.c:348: no AD1816A based soundcards found.

i've tried to make some sense of the output of pnpdump(1) and added an
entry to snd_ad1816a_pnpids[], but it hasn't helped.

rj

Re: help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

[Robert Siemer]

From: Robert Joop <rj@rainbow.in-berlin.de>

> what makes me wonder is:
> - at boot time, the BIOS says it initializes the plug and play cards
>   and detects the sound card, it prints its name.
> - but the linux ISA PNP does not seem to detect it:
>   Mar 30 19:20:13 moonbow kernel: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
>   Mar 30 19:20:13 moonbow kernel: isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
> - nor does the soundcard driver:
>   Mar 30 19:20:18 moonbow kernel: ALSA card-ad1816a.c:348: no
>   AD1816A based soundcards found.
>
> i've tried to make some sense of the output of pnpdump(1) and added
> an entry to snd_ad1816a_pnpids[], but it hasn't helped.

pnpdump does find the card and 'kernel isapnp' does not? You have a
problem beyound ALSA.

What is pnpdump saying? Maybe some parameters to isa-pnp.o can
help. At least isapnp_verbose I think. Look for MODULE_PARM in 
linux/drivers/pnp/isapnp.c


Bye,
	Robert

Re: help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

[Robert Joop]

On 02-03-30 22:53:41 MET, Robert Siemer wrote:
> From: Robert Joop <rj@rainbow.in-berlin.de>
> 
> > what makes me wonder is:
> > - at boot time, the BIOS says it initializes the plug and play cards
> >   and detects the sound card, it prints its name.
> > - but the linux ISA PNP does not seem to detect it:
> >   Mar 30 19:20:13 moonbow kernel: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
> >   Mar 30 19:20:13 moonbow kernel: isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
> > - nor does the soundcard driver:
> >   Mar 30 19:20:18 moonbow kernel: ALSA card-ad1816a.c:348: no
> >   AD1816A based soundcards found.
> >
> > i've tried to make some sense of the output of pnpdump(1) and added
> > an entry to snd_ad1816a_pnpids[], but it hasn't helped.
> 
> pnpdump does find the card and 'kernel isapnp' does not? You have a
> problem beyound ALSA.
> 
> What is pnpdump saying? Maybe some parameters to isa-pnp.o can
> help. At least isapnp_verbose I think. Look for MODULE_PARM in 
> linux/drivers/pnp/isapnp.c

isapnp_verbose=2 doesn't produce more output, i've even inserted a printk
line into isapnp_init() to make sure the variable setting in
/etc/modules.conf actually worked...
if i understand the code correctly, the variable ist set to 1 by default
and would have listed all cards found anyway.

Mar 31 01:16:36 moonbow kernel: isapnp: isapnp_verbose=2 [rj]
Mar 31 01:16:36 moonbow kernel: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
Mar 31 01:16:36 moonbow kernel: isapnp: No Plug & Play device found

the pnpdump output is appended.
the line i inserted into
/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/cards/card-ad1816a.c is

        ISAPNP_AD1816A('L','W','C',0x1060,'A','D','S',0x7180,0x7181),

(but it made no difference).

any suggestions?

--rj

# $Id: pnpdump_main.c,v 1.27 2001/04/30 21:54:53 fox Exp $
# Release isapnptools-1.26
# 
# This is free software, see the sources for details.
# This software has NO WARRANTY, use at your OWN RISK
# 
# For details of the output file format, see isapnp.conf(5)
# 
# For latest information and FAQ on isapnp and pnpdump see:
# http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/
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# Compiler flags:  -DREALTIME -DHAVE_PROC -DENABLE_PCI -DHAVE_SCHED_SETSCHEDULER -DHAVE_NANOSLEEP -DWANT_TO_VALIDATE
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# Trying port address 0273
# Board 1 has serial identifier 00 ff ff ff ff 60 10 e3 32

# (DEBUG)
(READPORT 0x0273)
(ISOLATE PRESERVE)
(IDENTIFY *)
(VERBOSITY 2)
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# Version 1.0, Vendor version 1.4
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#
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# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

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#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))
#       *** ERROR *** No DMA channel specified!
#             8 bit DMA only
#             Logical device is not a bus master
#             DMA may execute in count by byte mode
#             DMA may not execute in count by word mode
#             DMA channel speed type F
# (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 4))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0220
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0280
#             IO base alignment 32 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 16
# (IO 0 (SIZE 16) (BASE 0x0220) (CHECK))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0388
#             Maximum IO base address 0x03b8
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#     Device supports I/O range check register
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3b
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3c
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3e
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE LWC1060/-1 (LD 1
#     Compatible device id PNPb006

# Multiple choice time, choose one only !

#     Start dependent functions: priority preferred
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#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 9 (MODE +E)))
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#             High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 9 (MODE +E)))
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0300
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0330
#             IO base alignment 16 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 2
# (IO 0 (SIZE 2) (BASE 0x0300) (CHECK))

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#     Device supports I/O range check register
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3b
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3c
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3e
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE LWC1060/-1 (LD 2
#     Compatible device id PNPb02f

# Multiple choice time, choose one only !

#     Start dependent functions: priority preferred
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0200
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0200
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0200) (CHECK))

#       Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
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# (ACT Y)
))
#
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#     Device supports I/O range check register
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3b
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3c
#     Device supports vendor reserved register @ 0x3e
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE LWC1060/-1 (LD 3

# Multiple choice time, choose one only !

#     Start dependent functions: priority preferred
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0590
#             Maximum IO base address 0x0590
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
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# (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0590) (CHECK))

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# (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0590) (CHECK))

#       Start dependent functions: priority functional
#       Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
#             Minimum IO base address 0x0590
#             Maximum IO base address 0x05c8
#             IO base alignment 8 bytes
#             Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 0 (SIZE 8) (BASE 0x0590) (CHECK))

#     End dependent functions
 (NAME "LWC1060/-1[3]{HIGHSCREEN SOUNDBOOSTAR 32 WAVE 3D}")
# (ACT Y)
))
# End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK)

# Returns all cards to the "Wait for Key" state
(WAITFORKEY)

Re: help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

[Robert Siemer]

Re!

From: Robert Joop <rj@rainbow.in-berlin.de>
> On 02-03-30 22:53:41 MET, Robert Siemer wrote:

> > pnpdump does find the card and 'kernel isapnp' does not? You have a
> > problem beyound ALSA.

> the line i inserted into
> /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/cards/card-ad1816a.c is
> 
>         ISAPNP_AD1816A('L','W','C',0x1060,'A','D','S',0x7180,0x7181),
> 
> (but it made no difference).
> any suggestions?

You don't need to try anything with ALSA code, as 'kernel isapnp'
does not find your card.

[pnpdump output]
> # Trying port address 0273

Try isapnp_rdp=0x273 and play with isapnp_reset module parameter.
Look in linux/MAINTAINERS. Search with ISAPNP and maybe PNP for
contacts. I cant help here.


Bye,
	Robert

Re: help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

[Robert Joop]

On 02-03-31 03:25:56 MET DST, Robert Siemer wrote:
> You don't need to try anything with ALSA code, as 'kernel isapnp'
> does not find your card.

ok, if you are sure about this.
i must admit that i didn't give the kernel isapnp's output much
attention, because i read somewhere that alsa does its own isapnp.

> Try isapnp_rdp=0x273 and play with isapnp_reset module parameter.

doesn't help.

is pnp necessary anyway?!
this is the first time ever (in about 9 years of using linux) that i
give pnp a try.
with kernel 2.2.19 it was just

  alias sound-slot-0 gen_sound
  alias sound-service-0-3 gen_sound
  alias gen_sound sb
  options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=0

but this hangs the machine with 2.4.18, and i couldn't find out the
correct module parameters for neither the kernel's ad1816 driver nor
alsa's...

rj

Re: help needed for my AD1816A based soundcard

[Robert Joop]

On 02-03-31 13:38:24 MET DST, Robert Joop wrote:
> is pnp necessary anyway?!
> this is the first time ever (in about 9 years of using linux) that i
> give pnp a try.
> with kernel 2.2.19 it was just
> 
>   alias sound-slot-0 gen_sound
>   alias sound-service-0-3 gen_sound
>   alias gen_sound sb
>   options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=0
> 
> but this hangs the machine with 2.4.18, and i couldn't find out the
> correct module parameters for neither the kernel's ad1816 driver nor
> alsa's...

...until now.
i just permutated pnpdump's output and one combination actually works:

  modprobe ad1816 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=3

strange that the io port is so much different.
and that's the kernel's driver, but the alsa driver is more demanding,
it wants two more ports and one more IRQ.

perhaps i better stop with what i've got now, "if it ain't broke, don't
fix it"...

thanks for listening!
(and i'll keep using the alsa driver on the laptop. :-)

rj