From: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Jamie Lokier <lk@tantalophile.demon.co.uk>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
taka@valinux.co.jp, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zerocopy NFS updated
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:11:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020424231153.GM574@matchmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020412.213011.45159995.taka@valinux.co.jp> <20020412143559.A25386@wotan.suse.de> <20020412222252.A25184@kushida.apsleyroad.org> <20020412.143150.74519563.davem@redhat.com> <20020413012142.A25295@kushida.apsleyroad.org> <20020413083952.A32648@wotan.suse.de> <m1662vjtil.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> <20020413213700.A17884@wotan.suse.de> <m1zo07ibi3.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:34:12PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 01:19:46PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > Could the garbage from ext3 in writeback mode be considered an
> > > information leak? I know that is why most places in the kernel
> > > initialize pages to 0. So you don't accidentally see what another
> > > user put there.
> >
> > Yes it could. But then ext2/ffs have the same problem and so far people were
> > able to live on with that.
>
> The reason I asked, is the description sounded specific to ext3. Also
> with ext3 a supported way to shutdown is to just pull the power on the
> machine. And the filesystem comes back to life without a full fsck.
>
> So if this can happen when all you need is to replay the journal, I
> have issues with it. If this happens in the case of damaged
> filesystem I don't.
>
Actually, with ext3 the only mode IIRC is data=journal that will keep this
from happening. In ordered or writeback mode there is a window where the
pages will be zeroed in memory, but not on disk.
Admittedly, the time window is largest in writeback mode, smaller in ordered
and smallest (non-existant?) in data journaling mode.
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-04-24 23:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20020410.190550.83626375.taka@valinux.co.jp.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-04-10 19:32 ` [PATCH] zerocopy NFS updated Andi Kleen
2002-04-11 2:30 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-11 6:46 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-11 6:48 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-11 7:41 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-11 7:52 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-11 11:38 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-11 11:36 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-11 18:00 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-04-11 13:16 ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-11 17:36 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-16 0:17 ` Mike Fedyk
2002-04-16 15:37 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-04-11 17:33 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-04-12 8:10 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-12 12:30 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-12 12:35 ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-12 21:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-12 21:31 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-13 0:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-04-13 6:39 ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-13 8:01 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-13 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-13 19:37 ` Andi Kleen
2002-04-13 20:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-04-24 23:11 ` Mike Fedyk [this message]
2002-04-25 17:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-04-13 18:52 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-04-14 0:07 ` Keith Owens
2002-04-14 8:19 ` Chris Wedgwood
2002-04-14 8:40 ` Keith Owens
2002-04-12 21:39 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-15 1:30 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-15 4:23 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-16 1:03 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-16 1:41 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-04-16 2:20 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-18 5:01 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-18 7:58 ` Jakob Østergaard
2002-04-18 8:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-04-19 3:21 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-19 9:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-04-20 7:47 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-25 12:37 ` Possible bug with UDP and SO_REUSEADDR. Was " Terje Eggestad
2002-04-26 2:43 ` David S. Miller
2002-04-26 7:38 ` Terje Eggestad
2002-04-29 0:41 ` Possible bug with UDP and SO_REUSEADDR David Schwartz
2002-04-29 8:06 ` Terje Eggestad
2002-04-29 8:44 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-29 10:03 ` Terje Eggestad
2002-04-29 10:38 ` David Schwartz
2002-04-29 14:20 ` Terje Eggestad
[not found] ` <200204192128.QAA24592@popmail.austin.ibm.com>
2002-04-20 10:14 ` [PATCH] zerocopy NFS updated Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-20 15:49 ` Andrew Theurer
2002-04-10 10:12 Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-10 17:55 ` Andrew Theurer
2002-04-12 11:10 ` Andrew Theurer
2002-04-13 9:40 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
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2002-04-10 10:05 Hirokazu Takahashi
2002-04-10 10:05 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
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