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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.21: kbuild changes broke filenames with commas
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:31:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020611173147.C3665@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020609175804.B8761@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <5896.1023750165@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au> <20020611083947.A1346@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <E17HoBz-0000A0-00@starship>

On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 06:08:22PM +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> Are you sure that complexity was added just to handle commas in names?
> Or is it really an example of how good design never gave this bug a
> chance to exist in the first palce.
> 
> I *really* don't like the idea of papering over such bugs by curing the
> symptoms, as you seem to be advocating.

Lets see.

We have two places in 2.5.21 where commas are unacceptable:

1. -DKBUILD_BASENAME=$(subst $(comma),_,$(subst -,_,$(*F)))

   We need to do this because to do because KBUILD_BASENAME is used in
   places where commas are not acceptable.

   We papered over the fact that make can't subst commas by using the
   $(comma) construct.

2. -Wp,-MD,.$(subst /,_,$@).d (currently unfixed)

   This would need to become something like:

   -Wp,-MD,.$(subst /,_,$(subst $(comma,_,$@)).d

So now we have two places where the same yucky substing of commas to
something more palettable happens.  Now, what if we had:

	foo,bar.c

and

	foo_bar.c

in the same directory?  The kbuild system goes wrong, destroying dependency
information, using the wrong KBUILD_BASENAME.  Oops.  I guess we papered
over a bug by allowing commas in filenames.

In addition, I'd like to point out the following paragraph in the make
info files:

   The variant variables' names are formed by
   appending `D' or `F', respectively.  These variants are semi-obsolete
   in GNU `make' since the functions `dir' and `notdir' can be used to get
   a similar effect (*note Functions for File Names: File Name
   Functions.).

Both kbuild-2.5 and the existing kernel build make heavy use of the
"$(*F)" notation.  Should we really be putting semi-obsolete features
into either of the kernel build system?

-- 
Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)                The developer of ARM Linux
             http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-11 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-09 16:58 2.5.21: kbuild changes broke filenames with commas Russell King
2002-06-09 17:11 ` Upper limits to number of processes / threads in Linux / ia32?? M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
2002-06-09 18:02 ` 2.5.21: kbuild changes broke filenames with commas Kai Germaschewski
2002-06-09 18:34 ` Tom Rini
2002-06-10 23:02 ` Keith Owens
2002-06-11  7:39   ` Russell King
2002-06-11 11:11     ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-11 11:21       ` Russell King
2002-06-11 12:16         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-11 13:01           ` Russell King
2002-06-12 14:36           ` Ingo Oeser
2002-06-12 18:10             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-13 20:12         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-06-11 16:08     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-11 16:14       ` Alexander Viro
2002-06-11 16:22         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-11 16:31       ` Russell King [this message]
2002-06-11 16:36         ` Daniel Phillips
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-11 23:55 Keith Owens
2002-06-12  0:27 ` Kai Germaschewski

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