From: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:12:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020618171200.G16091@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206181334500.981-100000@home.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 01:41:12PM -0700
On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 01:41:12PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> That wasn't so hard, was it?
>
> Besides, we've had this interface for about 15 years, and it's called
> "select()". It scales fine to thousands of descriptors, and we're talking
> about something that is a hell of a lot less timing-critical than select
> ever was.
I take issue with the statement that select scales fine to thousands of
file descriptors. It doesn't. For fairly trivial workloads it degrades
to 0 operations per second with more than a few dozen filedescriptors in
the array, but only one descriptor being active. To sustain decent
throughput, select needs something like 50% of the filedescriptors in an
array to be active at every select() call, which makes in unsuitable for
things like LDAP servers, or HTTP/FTP where the clients are behind slow
connections or interactive (like in the real world). I've benchmarked
it -- we should really include something like /dev/epoll in the kernel
to improve this case.
Still, I think the bitmap approach in this case is useful, as having
affinity to multiple CPUs can be needed, and it is not a frequently
occuring operation (unlike select()).
-ben
--
"You will be reincarnated as a toad; and you will be much happier."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-18 21:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-18 17:18 latest linus-2.5 BK broken James Simmons
2002-06-18 17:46 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 18:51 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 18:43 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 18:59 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 20:05 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 20:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 21:12 ` Benjamin LaHaise [this message]
2002-06-18 21:08 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-18 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 12:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 3:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 5:24 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-20 7:26 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20 14:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 15:41 ` McVoy's Clusters (was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken) Sandy Harris
2002-06-20 17:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-20 20:42 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21 5:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 14:14 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 16:30 ` latest linus-2.5 BK broken Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-21 6:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 17:50 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-21 17:55 ` Robert Love
2002-06-21 18:09 ` Linux, the microkernel (was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken) Jeff Garzik
2002-06-21 18:46 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-21 20:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-22 1:07 ` Horst von Brand
2002-06-22 1:23 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 12:41 ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-23 15:15 ` Sandy Harris
2002-06-23 17:29 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2002-06-24 6:27 ` Craig I. Hagan
2002-06-24 13:06 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-06-24 10:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 19:34 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22 15:31 ` Alan Cox
2002-06-22 12:24 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22 19:00 ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2002-06-22 21:09 ` jdow
2002-06-23 17:56 ` John Alvord
2002-06-23 20:48 ` jdow
2002-06-23 21:40 ` [OT] " Xavier Bestel
2002-06-22 18:25 ` latest linus-2.5 BK broken Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 19:26 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 22:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 23:10 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-23 6:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23 22:56 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 17:16 ` RW Hawkins
2002-06-20 17:23 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 20:40 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:27 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 21:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:59 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 22:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 22:41 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-21 0:09 ` Allen Campbell
2002-06-21 7:43 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-21 21:02 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22 3:57 ` (RFC)i386 arch autodetect( was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken ) Matthew D. Pitts
2002-06-22 4:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-21 16:01 ` Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken Sandy Harris
2002-06-21 20:38 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-20 21:13 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21 5:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 10:21 ` Padraig Brady
2002-06-18 21:45 ` Bill Huey
2002-06-18 20:55 ` Robert Love
2002-06-19 13:31 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 19:29 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:19 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 19:49 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:27 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 20:13 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 22:03 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-18 23:38 Michael Hohnbaum
2002-06-18 23:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 0:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19 1:00 ` Matthew Dobson
2002-06-19 23:48 ` Michael Hohnbaum
[not found] <E17KSLb-0007Dj-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>
2002-06-19 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 15:23 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-19 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 20:57 ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-20 23:48 Miles Lane
2002-06-21 7:31 Martin Knoblauch
2002-06-21 12:59 Jesse Pollard
2002-06-24 21:28 Paul McKenney
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