[parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Masliy Alex]

I have some troubles in installation of Linux on HP PA 715/50

I have the following hardvare - HP PA 715/50 WS, 64Mb RAM, 1Gb SCSI HDD
QUANTUM LPS1080, DDS Tape Drive HP6400 2000, Floppy Drive Teac and CDROM
Nec CDR84JD-1

I have downloaded the last stable release - Debian port on HP PA 0.9.3 -
469Mb iso image

At first, I tried to install from CDROM. In the proccess of booting the
following messages were printed:
---------------
Trying to scsi.4.0
Failed to initialize scsi.4.0
ENTRY_INIT status = -13
---------------

Then I decided to install from floppies. However, some problems arised:
According to readme, I try to write on the Linux PC rescue disk for HP PA.
The command "dd if=rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024" gave the following out:
--------------
dd: writing `/dev/fd0': No space left on device
1441+0 input records
1440+0 output records
-------------

The command "cmp /dev/fd0 rescue.bin" gave the following out:
---------------
cmp: EOF on /dev/fd0
---------------

I couldn't mount this disk on Linux PC (unrecognised filesystem)
When I try to boot from this disk on HP PA,  I get the following:
--------------------
Trying to scsi.0.0
Failed to initialize scsi.0.0
ENTRY_INIT status = -4
--------------------

Could you advise me what can I do to install Linux on my HP PA?

--
Sincerilly,  
Masliy Alex			mailto:masliy@kfti.knc.ru

Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:43:36AM +0400, Masliy Alex wrote:
> I have some troubles in installation of Linux on HP PA 715/50
> 
> I have the following hardvare - HP PA 715/50 WS, 64Mb RAM, 1Gb SCSI HDD
> QUANTUM LPS1080, DDS Tape Drive HP6400 2000, Floppy Drive Teac and CDROM
> Nec CDR84JD-1
> 
> I have downloaded the last stable release - Debian port on HP PA 0.9.3 -
> 469Mb iso image
> 
> At first, I tried to install from CDROM. In the proccess of booting the
> following messages were printed:
> ---------------
> Trying to scsi.4.0
> Failed to initialize scsi.4.0
> ENTRY_INIT status = -13

Hmm. Was this drive working with that box under HP-UX?

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Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Masliy Alex]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 09:52:09 +0200
Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf.Hildebrandt@charite.de> wrote:

>> At first, I tried to install from CDROM. In the proccess of booting the
>> following messages were printed:
>> ---------------
>> Trying to scsi.4.0
>> Failed to initialize scsi.4.0
>> ENTRY_INIT status = -13
RH> Hmm. Was this drive working with that box under HP-UX?
    Yes, of course. I was mounted the Debian Install Disk under HP-UX.
    But it is old device (August 1993). 


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Masliy Alex			mailto:masliy@kfti.knc.ru

Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Tim ter Laak]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Masliy Alex wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 09:52:09 +0200
> Ralf Hildebrandt <Ralf.Hildebrandt@charite.de> wrote:
> 
> >> At first, I tried to install from CDROM. In the proccess of booting the
> >> following messages were printed:
> >> ---------------
> >> Trying to scsi.4.0
> >> Failed to initialize scsi.4.0
> >> ENTRY_INIT status = -13
> RH> Hmm. Was this drive working with that box under HP-UX?
>     Yes, of course. I was mounted the Debian Install Disk under HP-UX.
>     But it is old device (August 1993). 
> 
I have the exact same problem on this hardware. As long as I boot the
kernel from network, the whole linux system comes up fine. But the BIOS
won't load the PALO from disk. :-( Throw in the old UX disk, and it just
boots.
I know there's a firmware update for the faster 715's (66MHz and
up). Could this be a firmware bug? 

Tim.

Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

Am 18.06.2002 um 22:41:04 +0200 schrieb Tim ter Laak folgendes:

> I have the exact same problem on this hardware. As long as I boot the
> kernel from network, the whole linux system comes up fine. But the BIOS
> won't load the PALO from disk. :-( Throw in the old UX disk, and it just
> boots.
> I know there's a firmware update for the faster 715's (66MHz and
> up). Could this be a firmware bug? 

Maybe. You can perform a firmware update using tftp and bootp, its just
like booting the kernel.

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Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Masliy Alex]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:41:04 +0200 (CEST)
Tim ter Laak <timl@scintilla.utwente.nl> wrote:

>> >> At first, I tried to install from CDROM. In the proccess of booting
>>the
>> >> following messages were printed:
>> >> ---------------
>> >> Trying to scsi.4.0
>> >> Failed to initialize scsi.4.0
>> >> ENTRY_INIT status = -13
>> RH> Hmm. Was this drive working with that box under HP-UX?
>>     Yes, of course. I was mounted the Debian Install Disk under HP-UX.
>>     But it is old device (August 1993). 
TTL> I have the exact same problem on this hardware. As long as I boot the
TTL> kernel from network, the whole linux system comes up fine. But the
TTL> BIOS won't load the PALO from disk. :-( Throw in the old UX disk, and
it
TTL> just boots.
      I could not exactly understand what does the last phrase mean.
Either I must stop my attempts to install Linux on this mashine or I must
take older distribution version or what?

TTL> I know there's a firmware update for the faster 715's (66MHz and
TTL> up). Could this be a firmware bug? 
       May be,  but how can I find out that thing?

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С уважением,
Маслий Алексей			mailto:masliy@kfti.knc.ru

Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 12:55:06PM +0400, Masliy Alex wrote:

>       I could not exactly understand what does the last phrase mean.
> Either I must stop my attempts to install Linux on this mashine or I must
> take older distribution version or what?

Update the firmware maybe?
 
> TTL> I know there's a firmware update for the faster 715's (66MHz and
> TTL> up). Could this be a firmware bug? 
>        May be,  but how can I find out that thing?

Boot the box, look at the firmware version.

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Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Tim ter Laak]

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 12:55:06PM +0400, Masliy Alex wrote:
> 
> >       I could not exactly understand what does the last phrase mean.
> > Either I must stop my attempts to install Linux on this mashine or I must
> > take older distribution version or what?
> 
> Update the firmware maybe?
>  
I searched for a few days for new firmware for a 715/50, but didn't find
anything. Only for the faster 715's, but their hardware is slightly
different. So I wouldn't try that update on a 715/50.

*If* this really is a firmware bug (that's still merely speculation), a
workaround for Palo could be made (after all, HP-UX will boot). It
might even be a Palo bug?

Tim.

Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 12:53:24PM +0200, Tim ter Laak wrote:
> I searched for a few days for new firmware for a 715/50, but didn't find
> anything. Only for the faster 715's, but their hardware is slightly
> different. So I wouldn't try that update on a 715/50.

the hardware's quite radically different ... plus i believe that upgrading
715/Scorpio firmware invlves an EEPROM burner and swapping some chips.

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Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Grant Grundler]

Masliy Alex wrote:
> TTL> I know there's a firmware update for the faster 715's (66MHz and
> TTL> up). Could this be a firmware bug? 
>        May be,  but how can I find out that thing?

Read the "patch" description for the latest firmware version.
It should have a changelog in it.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] HP PA 715/50 installation trouble

[Richard Hirst]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:43:36AM +0400, Masliy Alex wrote:
> Then I decided to install from floppies. However, some problems arised:

Floppies are not supported on parisc at present.  Your options are to
install from cdrom, or boot and install from the network.  There is a
HOWTO docuemnt linked from <http://pateam.esiee.fr/>

Richard