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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
To: "Kevin D. Kissell" <kevink@mips.com>
Cc: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>,
	Carsten Langgaard <carstenl@mips.com>,
	linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: Promblem with PREF (prefetching) in memcpy
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 01:43:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021005014345.B15883@linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00dd01c26ba2$b18f55b0$10eca8c0@grendel>; from kevink@mips.com on Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 02:36:39PM +0200

On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 02:36:39PM +0200, Kevin D. Kissell wrote:

> In case Carsten's reply wasn't clear enough, there is a loophole
> in the spec:  kseg0.  There is no TLB access to cause a TLB
> exception (which would suppress the operation and be nullifed),
> If the prefetch address is correctly aligned, so that there is no
> address exception.  In typical use, kseg0 is cacheable, which
> means that the second paragraph you quote does not apply.
> A prefetch to a well-formed, cacheable kseg0 address which 
> has no primary storage behind it (e.g. 0x04000000 on a system
> with 64M of physical memory) should, according to the spec,
> cause a cache fill to be initiated for the line at that address,
> which will result in a bus error, if not a flat-out system hang.

Traditionally the kernel leaves the last page of memory unused but this
has been lost in the many changes to the memory initialization code.
It's still a good idea with all the broken I/O chips and PCI bridges out
there - and can avoid a hard to track bug.

That only leaves stuff usermode device drivers that are using cachable
mappings in the dangerzone.  That should be a rare case, if at all.

  Ralf

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-10-04 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-04  7:50 Promblem with PREF (prefetching) in memcpy Carsten Langgaard
2002-10-04 11:53 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 12:11   ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-10-04 12:35     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-10-04 12:36     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 12:35       ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-10-04 13:09         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 13:07           ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 13:07             ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 13:00       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:00         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:15         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 13:15           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:15             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:44             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 14:17               ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 14:17                 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 14:54                 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 13:01       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-04 13:17         ` Ralf Baechle
2002-10-04 13:32           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-04 13:29     ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 13:46       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-04 12:33   ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 12:33     ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 12:38     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-10-04 12:36   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 12:36     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 14:24     ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 14:24       ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 23:43     ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2002-10-05 15:12       ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-05 15:12         ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-05 15:56         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 12:37   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 12:37     ` Kevin D. Kissell

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