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From: Carsten Langgaard <carstenl@mips.com>
To: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>
Cc: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>, linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: Promblem with PREF (prefetching) in memcpy
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:11:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D9D855B.12128FA2@mips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200210041153.MAA12052@mudchute.algor.co.uk

Dominic Sweetman wrote:

> Carsten Langgaard (carstenl@mips.com) writes:
>
> > I think we have a problem with the PREF instructions spread out in the
> > memcpy function.
>
> Not really.  The MIPS32 manual (for example):
>
>  "PREF does not cause addressing-related exceptions. If it does happen
>   to raise an exception condition, the exception condition is
>   ignored. If an addressing-related exception condition is raised and
>   ignored, no data movement occurs."

Is a bus error exception an address related exception ?
I'm afraid some implementation think it's not.


>
>   PREF never generates a memory operation for a location with an
>   uncached memory access type."
>
> For a Linux user program, at least, memory pages are "memory-like":
> reads are guaranteed to be side-effect free, so any outlying
> prefetches are harmless.  It's hard to see any circumstance where an
> accessible cacheable location would lead to bad side-effects on read.

What about an UART RX register, we might loose a character ?
You can also configure you system, so you get a external interrupt from you
system controller in case of a bus error, there is no way the CPU can
relate this interrupt to the prefetching.




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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-04 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-04  7:50 Promblem with PREF (prefetching) in memcpy Carsten Langgaard
2002-10-04 11:53 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 12:11   ` Carsten Langgaard [this message]
2002-10-04 12:35     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2002-10-04 12:36     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 12:35       ` Carsten Langgaard
2002-10-04 13:09         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 13:07           ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 13:07             ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 13:00       ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:00         ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:15         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 13:15           ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:15             ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 13:44             ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 14:17               ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 14:17                 ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 14:54                 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 13:01       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-04 13:17         ` Ralf Baechle
2002-10-04 13:32           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-04 13:29     ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 13:46       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-10-04 12:33   ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 12:33     ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-04 12:38     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-10-04 12:36   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 12:36     ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 14:24     ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 14:24       ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-10-04 23:43     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-10-05 15:12       ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-05 15:12         ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-10-05 15:56         ` Alan Cox
2002-10-04 12:37   ` Kevin D. Kissell
2002-10-04 12:37     ` Kevin D. Kissell

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