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From: Oleg Drokin <green@namesys.com>
To: Tom Vier <tmv@comcast.net>
Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Behavior of tails with respect to shred, wipe, etc
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:36:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021030093628.A5560@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20021030023217.GA9548@yzero>

Hello!

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 09:32:17PM -0500, Tom Vier wrote:
> > > I guess we should address this issue in reiser4. This is -security-
> > > feature after all. Hans? It is not clear how to intehgrate this with
> > > journalling though.
> > Zero out all freed blocks (mount option). This will kill write performance
> > though.
> you could add support for the +s attr. zero-out current contents on delete.

That won't work with editors that create temporary file, write new content into
it and then rename that temp file into new one.

> i'm the author of (one) wipe (aka ya-wipe, there's more than one "wipe") and
> i made a point to be clear in the docs and on wipe.sf.net that encryption is
> the only complete solution. my app is most useful for using on whole drives,

Another one (for deleted data to stay deleted) is to zero out all freed blocks
;)

> if you're going to sell it on ebay or something, and you want non-secret
> personal stuff off (or at least invisible to almost all).

Is that somehow better than badblocks -w /dev/hdX ? ;)

Bye,
    Oleg

  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-30  6:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-25 15:40 Behavior of tails with respect to shred, wipe, etc Brett Russ
2002-10-25 15:55 ` Nikita Danilov
2002-10-25 16:00   ` Oleg Drokin
2002-10-25 16:09     ` Nikita Danilov
2002-10-26  7:06     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-10-30  2:32     ` Tom Vier
2002-10-30  6:36       ` Oleg Drokin [this message]
2002-10-30  7:14         ` Tom Vier
2002-10-25 21:13   ` Brett Russ
2002-10-28 10:01     ` Nikita Danilov
2002-10-26  1:41   ` Hans Reiser
2002-10-26  7:09     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-10-26 13:53       ` Hans Reiser

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