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From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: lan based kgdb
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:10:45 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021117221045.L1407@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m11y5k3ruw.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>; from ebiederm@xmission.com on Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:42:47PM -0700

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Otherwise the concept gives me security nightmares.

Bah, there are a few Fundamental Truths of Networking Simplification
that we can absolutely rely on:

 - it is perfectly safe to require that a given port be connected only
   to a secure and trusted network
 - if you design a protocol not to work over a WAN, everybody will
   respect this, and deploy it only on LANs
 - if any of the above constraints is no longer tenable, people will
   carefully redesign the protocol in question, and replace the
   installed base
 - all LANs have simple, well-understood characteristics - now and
   forever

After all, SNMP, FSP, LANE, NAT, WEP, etc. can't be wrong (-:C

And yes, I can vividly imagine users of dedicated hosts rush to switch
on that remote console the very moment it becomes available, and use
it across half of the planet.

- Werner

-- 
  _________________________________________________________________________
 / Werner Almesberger, Buenos Aires, Argentina         wa@almesberger.net /
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-11-18  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-15 20:29 lan based kgdb Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 20:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-11-15 22:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-11-15 21:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-15 21:46     ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:05     ` Kallol Biswas
2002-11-15 22:24     ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-15 22:47       ` Dmitri
2002-11-15 22:53         ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-17  5:45         ` M. R. Brown
2002-11-15 22:51       ` Andrew Morton
2002-11-15 22:59         ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 16:23           ` yodaiken
2002-11-16 17:21             ` Stelian Pop
2002-11-16 21:32               ` Nicholas Miell
2002-11-16  2:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:18           ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16  4:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-16  7:24         ` David Mosberger-Tang
2002-11-16 17:58           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-11-16 23:56           ` Alan Cox
2002-11-16 18:24         ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-16 18:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-16 19:04             ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-11-17  9:56             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-17 14:50               ` Alan Cox
2002-11-18  7:27                 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2002-11-19  8:49                 ` Amit S. Kale
2002-11-16 20:42         ` Werner Almesberger
2002-11-16 23:54         ` Alan Cox
2002-11-17  3:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-11-17  3:30             ` Larry McVoy
2002-11-17 19:42               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:10                 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-11-17 20:31                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 20:25                 ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 21:30                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:32                     ` David Lang
2002-11-17 21:48                       ` Brad Hards
2002-11-17 22:00                         ` David Lang
2002-11-17 23:48                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-11-17 21:42                     ` Brad Hards
2002-11-18  1:10                 ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2002-11-18  7:20       ` Miles Bader
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-15 21:44 Edwin Bland
     [not found] <1037490849.24843.11.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20021116193008.C25741@work.bitmover.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <m11y5k3ruw.fsf@frodo.biederman.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <200211180725.27450.bhards@bigpond.net.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <m1smxz3mw7.fsf@frodo.biederman.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-11-17 23:52         ` Andi Kleen

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