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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.48-mm1
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:08:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021122010853.GI11776@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1021121160056.10456D-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>

On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 04:04:25PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> This is purely a performance decision. If you want to avoid bad latency on
> reads then you have to throttle writes. The loop_thread will make the
> system just as slow as a user application writing the same number of
> pages.
> If you want io scheduling you will deliberately slow writes to let reads
> happen in reasonable time. And vice-versa I imagine, although I don't
> think I've seen that case.

Not entirely so. This is just a scheduling decision that has to
discriminate between blocking and nonblocking requests and prevent
starvation of the blocking requests. Write throttling is an
oversimplification that functions poorly.


Bill

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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.48-mm1
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:08:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20021122010853.GI11776@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1021121160056.10456D-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com>

On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 04:04:25PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> This is purely a performance decision. If you want to avoid bad latency on
> reads then you have to throttle writes. The loop_thread will make the
> system just as slow as a user application writing the same number of
> pages.
> If you want io scheduling you will deliberately slow writes to let reads
> happen in reasonable time. And vice-versa I imagine, although I don't
> think I've seen that case.

Not entirely so. This is just a scheduling decision that has to
discriminate between blocking and nonblocking requests and prevent
starvation of the blocking requests. Write throttling is an
oversimplification that functions poorly.


Bill
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-22  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-19  9:16 2.5.48-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-11-19  9:16 ` 2.5.48-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-11-19 10:52 ` 2.5.48-mm1 Nick Piggin
2002-11-19 10:52   ` 2.5.48-mm1 Nick Piggin
2002-11-19 14:05 ` 2.5.48-mm1 Hugh Dickins
2002-11-19 14:05   ` 2.5.48-mm1 Hugh Dickins
2002-11-21 21:04   ` 2.5.48-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2002-11-21 21:04     ` 2.5.48-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2002-11-22  1:08     ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2002-11-22  1:08       ` 2.5.48-mm1 William Lee Irwin III

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