* Re: other OS
2002-12-03 4:11 ` other OS darren
@ 2002-12-03 16:15 ` Oleg Drokin
2002-12-03 16:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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From: Oleg Drokin @ 2002-12-03 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: darren; +Cc: reiserfs-list
Hello!
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 12:11:06PM +0800, darren wrote:
> Was just wondering about the possibilities of using reiserfs on my
> Solaris 6 machine.
> Any chance of that?
If you can convice SUN to pay for the porting of reiserfs to SUN
then it is possible.
Alternativey you can follow htp://namesys.com/support.html instructions.
> I am having problems with FS performance (large number, 20K of small
> files in folder with constant writes and deletes) on the Sun Machine and
> was thinking if this can help me.
Linux is able to run on SUN boxes too, and reiserfs is available for
Linux on any supported hardware if it is littleendian or bigendian.
> The only way I know is to use a Linux machine running reiser and NFS it
> over. But performance will surely be degraded this way....any other
> suggestions?
Switch the OS, switch the OS and the hardware or pay for the porting.
(This is assuming that you did all the necessary tuning of your solaris box
already).
Bye,
Oleg
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2002-12-03 4:11 ` other OS darren
2002-12-03 16:15 ` Oleg Drokin
@ 2002-12-03 16:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-12-03 17:49 ` Russell Coker
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks @ 2002-12-03 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: darren; +Cc: reiserfs-list
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On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:11:06 +0800, darren <teodarren@myrealbox.com> said:
> Was just wondering about the possibilities of using reiserfs on my
> Solaris 6 machine.
>
> Any chance of that?
Almost none. Unless you're clued enough about Solaris kernel internals to
port a filesystem, in which case you'd not be asking.
You might want to look into whether Solaris 7, 8, or 9 address your
performance concerns - Solaris 6 is quite ancient.
--
Valdis Kletnieks
Computer Systems Senior Engineer
Virginia Tech
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2002-12-03 4:11 ` other OS darren
2002-12-03 16:15 ` Oleg Drokin
2002-12-03 16:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
@ 2002-12-03 17:49 ` Russell Coker
2002-12-03 21:57 ` Hans Reiser
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From: Russell Coker @ 2002-12-03 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: darren, reiserfs-list
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 05:11, darren wrote:
> Was just wondering about the possibilities of using reiserfs on my
> Solaris 6 machine.
>
> Any chance of that?
I doubt it. I can't imagine Sun (or anyone else) paying Hans enough money to
do this.
Veritas VXFS is good for this type of thing. Any time you want half decent IO
performance on Solaris you want Veritas VXFS and Volume Manager.
> I am having problems with FS performance (large number, 20K of small
> files in folder with constant writes and deletes) on the Sun Machine and
> was thinking if this can help me.
>
> The only way I know is to use a Linux machine running reiser and NFS it
> over. But performance will surely be degraded this way....any other
> suggestions?
In 1999 I was doing some work on AIX machines. I found that an AIX server was
so slow that NFS mounting a ReiserFS file system over a 10baseT network was
faster for some operations!!! If you do a usenet search you can find
references to this, comp.sys.aix or something.
Another option is to use Linux on the SPARC machine. Linux on SPARC reputedly
performs a lot better than Solaris if you have 8 or less CPUs, even without
the ReiserFS issue. I think that Linux on SPARC can even run Solaris
binaries (but I'm not certain).
PS There is no such thing as Solaris 6. They jumped straight from Solaris
2.6 (which is presumably what you are using) to Solaris 7.0.
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2002-12-03 4:11 ` other OS darren
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2002-12-03 17:49 ` Russell Coker
@ 2002-12-03 21:57 ` Hans Reiser
2002-12-03 21:04 ` Scott R. Every
2002-12-04 0:57 ` Hans Reiser
2002-12-04 3:46 ` Hans Reiser
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From: Hans Reiser @ 2002-12-03 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Russell Coker; +Cc: darren, reiserfs-list
Russell Coker wrote:
>
>I doubt it. I can't imagine Sun (or anyone else) paying Hans enough money to
>do this.
>
It is not so far fetched.... There are big customers of theirs like
United Airlines that want reiserfs, and they did meet with me, they just
didn't act.... Pressure them, they are very influenceable over there in
marketing....
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2002-12-03 21:57 ` Hans Reiser
@ 2002-12-03 21:04 ` Scott R. Every
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From: Scott R. Every @ 2002-12-03 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Reiser, Russell Coker; +Cc: darren, reiserfs-list
Now, if we could just get reiserfs for OS X! It would be so nice to have a
firewire device which could work on linux and OS X. Just missing a common
FS.
Who should we bug to get this happening? Apple?
<ot>
Any opinions on the new journalling HFS+ filesystem that was added in 10.2.2
</ot>
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Scott R. Every mailto:scott@blast.com
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1-800-24-BLAST ext 543
--On Wednesday, December 4, 2002 12:57 AM +0300 Hans Reiser
<reiser@namesys.com> wrote:
> Russell Coker wrote:
>
>>
>> I doubt it. I can't imagine Sun (or anyone else) paying Hans enough
>> money to do this.
>>
> It is not so far fetched.... There are big customers of theirs like
> United Airlines that want reiserfs, and they did meet with me, they just
> didn't act.... Pressure them, they are very influenceable over there in
> marketing....
>
>
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* Re: other OS
2002-12-03 4:11 ` other OS darren
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2002-12-03 21:57 ` Hans Reiser
@ 2002-12-04 0:57 ` Hans Reiser
2002-12-04 3:46 ` Hans Reiser
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From: Hans Reiser @ 2002-12-04 0:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scott R. Every; +Cc: Russell Coker, darren, reiserfs-list
Scott R. Every wrote:
> Now, if we could just get reiserfs for OS X! It would be so nice to
> have a firewire device which could work on linux and OS X. Just
> missing a common FS.
>
> Who should we bug to get this happening? Apple?
>
> <ot>
> Any opinions on the new journalling HFS+ filesystem that was added in
> 10.2.2
> </ot>
>
Funny you should mention that.....
I gave them a 5.5 hour reiser4 presentation last month. I don't know
yet if they will buy a reiser4 port (I hope so, it would be a lot of fun
to work with them, they aren't afraid to innovate....), but they did
make pretty darn sure they understood reiser4....
I bcc'd Dominic (the guy they hired from BeFS) just in case he finds
this thread interesting....;-)
BeFS also pushes the envelope, so working with them could be rather
interesting I think.
Hans
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2002-12-03 4:11 ` other OS darren
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2002-12-04 0:57 ` Hans Reiser
@ 2002-12-04 3:46 ` Hans Reiser
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From: Hans Reiser @ 2002-12-04 3:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scott R. Every; +Cc: Russell Coker, darren, reiserfs-list
Scott R. Every wrote:
> Now, if we could just get reiserfs for OS X! It would be so nice to
> have a firewire device which could work on linux and OS X. Just
> missing a common FS.
>
> Who should we bug to get this happening? Apple?
>
> <ot>
> Any opinions on the new journalling HFS+ filesystem that was added in
> 10.2.2
> </ot>
>
Funny you should mention that.....
I gave them a 5.5 hour reiser4 presentation last month. I don't know
yet if they will buy a reiser4 port (I hope so, it would be a lot of fun
to work with them, they aren't afraid to innovate....), but they did
make pretty darn sure they understood reiser4....
I bcc'd Dominic (the guy they hired from BeFS) just in case he finds
this thread interesting....;-)
BeFS also pushes the envelope in its own ways, so working with them
would be rather interesting.
Hans
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