Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[jsoe0708]

Hi,

>-- Original Message --
>From: "Vlad D. Markov" <markov@monmouth.com>
>To: jsoe0708@tiscali.be
>Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files=

>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:52:40 -0500
>
>
>Did not want to send the file to the whole group.
>
You would :-)
>
>On Monday 06 January 2003 04:02 am, you wrote:
>> >When I extract large tar files on my 735/99 (tar --numeric-owner -xzv=
pf
>>
>> ),
>>
>> >the kernel panics and I get a core dump.
>>
>> Interesting, can you explain me how do you grab this coredump?
>>
>> >My kernel is: Linux version 2.4.20-pa18 (root@grumpy) (gcc version 3.=
0.4)
>> >#22
>> >Fri Dec 27 21:25:37 EST 2002
>> >
>> >I saved a capture from minicom and have not upgraded the kernel since=
.
>>
>> Firstly the minicom capture, would already tell more :)
>>
>> Greetings,
>>     Joel
>>

Well I am not an expert but just notice what seems to me the most importa=
nt:
Trap 5 on CPU 0

     YZrvWESTHLNXBCVMcbcbcbcbOGFRQPDI
PSW: 00000000000001100000000000001111 Not tainted
r00-03  00000000 10102800 10155b54 1d7dcf20
r04-07  103f6dd4 1d7dc020 1d7dc000 000000f0
r08-11  00000001 00000400 274bb3c0 00000000
r12-15  2748c5d0 00000001 27603b80 101464a0
r16-19  10130820 1030b10c 00000000 00000001
r20-23  00000000 1d7dcf20 00000000 00000000
r24-27  0000005c 00000000 1d7dcf20 102f6010
r28-31  1d7dcec0 00000e40 2748cac0 10135e14
sr0-3   00000000 00000104 00000000 00000104
sr4-7   00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

IASQ: 00000000 00000000 IAOQ: 101028a8 101028ac
 IIR: 6ab60038    ISR: 00000000  IOR: 1d7dcf3c
 CPU:        0   CR30: 2748c000 CR31: 103b0000
 ORIG_R28: 103ab810
Trap 5 on CPU 0

     YZrvWESTHLNXBCVMcbcbcbcbOGFRQPDI
PSW: 00000000000001101111111100001111 Not tainted
r00-03  00000000 102f8cb0 10108064 1d7dcf20
r04-07  103f6dd4 1d7dc020 1d7dc000 000000f0
r08-11  00000001 00000400 274bb3c0 00000000
r12-15  2748c5d0 00000001 27603b80 101464a0
r16-19  2748cac0 1030b10c 00000000 90000000
r20-23  00000000 0000000e 10254110 48809600
r24-27  f0825100 00000016 103f52a0 102f6010
r28-31  00000000 000003de 2748cd00 10105134
sr0-3   00000000 00000104 00000000 00000104
sr4-7   00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

IASQ: 00000000 00000000 IAOQ: 10108068 1010806c
 IIR: 22643206    ISR: 00000000  IOR: 10309800
 CPU:        0   CR30: 2748c000 CR31: 103b0000
 ORIG_R28: 00000000
...
Trap 5 on CPU 0

     YZrvWESTHLNXBCVMcbcbcbcbOGFRQPDI
PSW: 00000000000001001111111100001111 Not tainted
r00-03  00000000 1030612c 10108064 1d7dcf20
r04-07  103f6dd4 1d7dc020 1d7dc000 000000f0
r08-11  00000001 00000400 274bb3c0 00000000
r12-15  2748c5d0 00000001 27603b80 101464a0
r16-19  274e9100 1030b10c 00000000 90000000
r20-23  00000000 00000001 b0324889 0000dbae
r24-27  00000001 00000064 10306420 102f6010
r28-31  00000000 00000232 274e9340 10125200
sr0-3   00000000 00000104 00000000 00000104
sr4-7   00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000

IASQ: 00000000 00000000 IAOQ: 10108068 1010806c
 IIR: 22643206    ISR: 00000000  IOR: 10309800
 CPU:        0   CR30: 2748c000 CR31: 103b0000
 ORIG_R28: 103bf23f
Trap 5 on CPU 0

     YZrvWESTHLNXBCVMcbcbcbcbOGFRQPDI
PSW: 00000000000001101111111100001111 Not tainted
r00-03  00000000 1030612c 10108064 1d7dcf20
r04-07  103f6dd4 1d7dc020 1d7dc000 000000f0
r08-11  00000001 00000400 274bb3c0 00000000
r12-15  2748c5d0 00000001 27603b80 101464a0
r16-19  274e9340 1030b10c 00000000 90000000
r20-23  00000000 00000001 b507ebf3 0000dbff
r24-27  00000001 00000064 10306420 102f60=FF

which say that is a trap 5 (ie a LPMC). So, may me am i wrong, but it see=
ms
that there is a hardware problem on this machine?

AFAIK to analyse this kind of problem would be to re-install (may be a te=
mporary
external disk) hp-ux and mainly DIAGTOOLS.

On my own a run 2.4.20-pa18 (2.4.21-pre2-pa18) (compiled with same gcc)
without problem on a b180 and b2k (excepted with PDC on this last).

But again I am not expert so I made ml in CC.

Cheers,
    Joel


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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Grant Grundler]

On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 08:23:37AM +0100, jsoe0708@tiscali.be wrote:
...
> >Did not want to send the file to the whole group.
> >
> You would :-)

joel is right. See FAQ #17.
http://www.parisc-linux.org/faq/index.html

> Trap 5 on CPU 0
>  IIR: 6ab60038    ISR: 00000000  IOR: 1d7dcf3c
> Trap 5 on CPU 0
>  IIR: 22643206    ISR: 00000000  IOR: 10309800
> Trap 5 on CPU 0
>  IIR: 22643206    ISR: 00000000  IOR: 10309800
> Trap 5 on CPU 0
>
> which say that is a trap 5 (ie a LPMC). So, may me am i wrong, but it seems
> that there is a hardware problem on this machine?

yes. LPMC is usually a recoverable memory parity error.
ISR/IOR is the virtual address that was accessed.
Since this is kernel space (ISR==0), I think you can just
drop the leading 1 for the physical address.

Try pulling half the memory and see if the trap goes away.
Or replace all the memory if you have spares.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Thibaut VARENE]

Well,

after having talked a bit with the 'pioneers' here at ESIEE, it appears 
that this tar problem is a long lasting one.

Matthieu Delahaye told me that since the very first days of pa/linux; 
this bug has existed, mostly happening on 'un-taring' files, obliging 
users to untar by small chunks of data.

FWIW, I experienced that bug too on the A500, had no time to chase it 
down but I will look at it soon.
It's near the top of my TODO list :)

HTH,


Thibaut VARENE
The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
http://pateam.esiee.fr/

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Carlos O'Donell]

> Matthieu Delahaye told me that since the very first days of pa/linux; 
> this bug has existed, mostly happening on 'un-taring' files, obliging 
> users to untar by small chunks of data.

And hardware errors have existed since the beggining of time ;)
 
> FWIW, I experienced that bug too on the A500, had no time to chase it 
> down but I will look at it soon.

How big is the file? I routinely tar/untar _very_ large source archives
on my A500 and I see no problems. 

c.

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Thibaut VARENE]

On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:13:19 -0500
"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@baldric.uwo.ca> wrote:

> > Matthieu Delahaye told me that since the very first days of pa/linux; 
> > this bug has existed, mostly happening on 'un-taring' files, obliging 
> > users to untar by small chunks of data.
> 
> And hardware errors have existed since the beggining of time ;)
Hardware errors happening on several boxes and only when unpacking an archive?
Kinda "feature" heh ? :)
>  
> > FWIW, I experienced that bug too on the A500, had no time to chase it 
> > down but I will look at it soon.
> 
> How big is the file? I routinely tar/untar _very_ large source archives
> on my A500 and I see no problems. 
About 700M gzipped.


Thibaut VARENE
The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
http://pateam.esiee.fr/

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Carlos O'Donell]

> > > FWIW, I experienced that bug too on the A500, had no time to chase it 
> > > down but I will look at it soon.
> > 
> > How big is the file? I routinely tar/untar _very_ large source archives
> > on my A500 and I see no problems. 

> About 700M gzipped.

I just unpacked 1234744157 Jan  7 19:33 src.tar.gz into a 4GB source
archive on an ext2 fs. The box didn't even blink. Running 2.4.19-pa22 
parisc64 non-SMP.

As it turns out Vlad's archive is on 14MB's but contains lots of very
small files. I'm trying to get a hold of this to test it out.

c.

Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Carlos O'Donell]

> 
> As it turns out Vlad's archive is on 14MB's but contains lots of very
> small files. I'm trying to get a hold of this to test it out.
> 

I just downloaded the archive that Vlad had problems with and it doesn't
crash my machine. We'll need some more detailed info about the hardware,
scsi setup, and the procedure.

c.

[parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Vlad D. Markov]

When I extract large tar files on my 735/99 (tar --numeric-owner -xzvpf ), 
the kernel panics and I get a core dump.

My kernel is: Linux version 2.4.20-pa18 (root@grumpy) (gcc version 3.0.4) #22 
Fri Dec 27 21:25:37 EST 2002

I saved a capture from minicom and have not upgraded the kernel since. I can 
mail the capture and my System.map separately.

If a new kernel or different version of gcc is needed, please let me know.

RE: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[jsoe0708]

>
>When I extract large tar files on my 735/99 (tar --numeric-owner -xzvpf
),
>
>the kernel panics and I get a core dump.

Interesting, can you explain me how do you grab this coredump?

>
>My kernel is: Linux version 2.4.20-pa18 (root@grumpy) (gcc version 3.0.4=
)
>#22 
>Fri Dec 27 21:25:37 EST 2002
>
>I saved a capture from minicom and have not upgraded the kernel since.

Firstly the minicom capture, would already tell more :)

Greetings,
    Joel


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Re: [parisc-linux] kernel panic when extracting large tar files

[Matthew Wilcox]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 10:02:56AM +0100, jsoe0708@tiscali.be wrote:
> 
> >
> >When I extract large tar files on my 735/99 (tar --numeric-owner -xzvpf
> ),
> >
> >the kernel panics and I get a core dump.

FAQ #17

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