* [parisc-linux] Ok all
@ 2003-01-26 8:17 Sir Ace
2003-01-26 21:52 ` Grant Grundler
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-26 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
I would like to say thanks for everyone that replied to the questions I
asked, and apologize for my rant the other day.
I was told by many people {don't have access to the list of who at the
moment}, that this was the list to bug with the debian problems.
Anyway that said, some quick things:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Why remove the existing package?
> I overwrite existing files when I need to.
The install paths are different than the paths that were used byt the
packages.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> yes. The CD has a shell which will let you fix *most* things.
> You might also try booting with "init=/bin/bash" or if you are lucky,
> "init=/bin/sash". Then by hand re-install the libncurses.
Ahh, just like IRIX, thanks...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> uhm...what are you building that takes 4 days?
> Not even glibc or xfree86 takes that long.
On 128 Meg of ram, and 1 100Mhz pa7200, openssl, openssh, 2.4.20 kernel,
gcc 2.95.3, pine, and several other apps... Remembering things don't
normally build the first time around, and tweaks must be made...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> What's more, no need to use CAPS, exclamations and other insults to ask
> questions or report problems. You won't get any result but upsetting
> guys who did a _damn good work_ to make the stuff work.
Ok, then I will give credit to everyone who got it this far, I am happy I
might be able to get the workstations here in my office off of HP/UX 10.20
and into this decade, even if I have to setup NFS-root clients to do it.
But, I really would like to emphasise, how much I really don't appreciate
the linking or curses into so many things. I built my own dist from
scratch for the Hitachi-SuperH, and I had little to no help at the time,
since there was no one working on it yet. I found no reason to link
libraries in that weren't needed, especially since I was building from
scratch, and it was more than I needed in the beginings.... Noteably
hppa-linux is much farther along than my dist was or is, so credit
to the folks there... But like it has been said this is the wrong
liste to rant on.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lots of lots of fun. BTW, do you know how to install a .deb file without
> the benefit of a working dpkg/dselect/apt et al?
I did not until a day after I wrote that mail. I work in a different
state than where I live, so I copied the .debs from the cd and looked it
up when I got home. Only to find out I could not login to use what I
read about them.. It sucked...
I know about slackware pacakges and rpms, but I have never had to use
debian as a dist until I started working trying to figure out how to get
linux on my boxes.
Thanks for your quick tutorial, now I have it written down in my email so
I can find it faster should I forget what I read.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
So.... in closing, thanks for the answers, and not killing me for sending
the mail in the first place.
--Sir Ace
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2003-01-26 8:17 [parisc-linux] Ok all Sir Ace
@ 2003-01-26 21:52 ` Grant Grundler
2003-01-28 4:23 ` [parisc-linux] Kernel Sir Ace
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Grant Grundler @ 2003-01-26 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sir Ace; +Cc: parisc-linux
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 12:17:31AM -0800, Sir Ace wrote:
> > uhm...what are you building that takes 4 days?
> > Not even glibc or xfree86 takes that long.
>
> On 128 Meg of ram, and 1 100Mhz pa7200, openssl, openssh, 2.4.20 kernel,
> gcc 2.95.3, pine, and several other apps... Remembering things don't
> normally build the first time around, and tweaks must be made...
ok. but you definitely are not building gcc 2.95.3 - we've never used that.
gcc 3.0 is the first release for parisc.
> Ok, then I will give credit to everyone who got it this far, I am happy I
> might be able to get the workstations here in my office off of HP/UX 10.20
> and into this decade, even if I have to setup NFS-root clients to do it.
I've been using b180 w/parisc-linux as desktop/debian mirror for almost
a year now. only thing to crash the box was audio driver and test
kernels. But some things are missing that HPUX has: NetMeeting
support (T.120 specifically; GnomeMeeting supports H323), performance.
grant
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* [parisc-linux] Kernel....
2003-01-26 21:52 ` Grant Grundler
@ 2003-01-28 4:23 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-28 4:24 ` Randolph Chung
2003-01-28 9:07 ` [parisc-linux] Kernel Thibaut VARENE
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-28 4:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
Quick question... I got the box back up and running and everything built.
In PCs it's make zImage/bzImage
on Alpha's it's make boot
make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
either...
What is the target for a kernel build?
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* Re: [parisc-linux] Kernel....
2003-01-28 4:23 ` [parisc-linux] Kernel Sir Ace
@ 2003-01-28 4:24 ` Randolph Chung
2003-01-28 4:30 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-28 4:30 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-28 9:07 ` [parisc-linux] Kernel Thibaut VARENE
1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Randolph Chung @ 2003-01-28 4:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sir Ace; +Cc: parisc-linux
> make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> either...
>
> What is the target for a kernel build?
make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
want make palo
randolph
--
Randolph Chung
Debian GNU/Linux Developer, hppa/ia64 ports
http://www.tausq.org/
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* Re: [parisc-linux] Kernel....
2003-01-28 4:24 ` Randolph Chung
@ 2003-01-28 4:30 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-28 4:30 ` Sir Ace
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-28 4:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
I thought so, but I couldn't find the kernel, once it was built {I saw the
correct output} Let me go back and looks and see if I can find it again.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Randolph Chung wrote:
> > make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> > either...
> >
> > What is the target for a kernel build?
>
> make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
> want make palo
>
> randolph
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread* Re: [parisc-linux] Kernel....
2003-01-28 4:24 ` Randolph Chung
2003-01-28 4:30 ` Sir Ace
@ 2003-01-28 4:30 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-28 4:35 ` Sir Ace
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-28 4:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
Does vmlinuz work on hp?
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Randolph Chung wrote:
> > make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> > either...
> >
> > What is the target for a kernel build?
>
> make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
> want make palo
>
> randolph
>
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* Re: [parisc-linux] Kernel....
2003-01-28 4:30 ` Sir Ace
@ 2003-01-28 4:35 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-28 4:54 ` [parisc-linux] kernel hang Sir Ace
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-28 4:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
Duh, I forgot that vmlinux gets dropped in /usr/src/linux...
my bad...
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> Does vmlinuz work on hp?
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Randolph Chung wrote:
>
> > > make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> > > either...
> > >
> > > What is the target for a kernel build?
> >
> > make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
> > want make palo
> >
> > randolph
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
>
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* [parisc-linux] kernel hang.
2003-01-28 4:35 ` Sir Ace
@ 2003-01-28 4:54 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-28 5:08 ` Derek Engelhaupt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-28 4:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
I compiled 2.4.20, and set it up to boot from the new kernel.
Unfortunately it hung, at the
'if this the last message you see' part...
I can't find anything in the FAQ, and I didn't find anything in the bug
liste... The machine is a J210, any ideas? Or what kind of info should I
send?
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> Duh, I forgot that vmlinux gets dropped in /usr/src/linux...
> my bad...
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> >
> > Does vmlinuz work on hp?
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Randolph Chung wrote:
> >
> > > > make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> > > > either...
> > > >
> > > > What is the target for a kernel build?
> > >
> > > make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
> > > want make palo
> > >
> > > randolph
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > parisc-linux mailing list
> > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
>
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* Re: [parisc-linux] kernel hang.
2003-01-28 4:54 ` [parisc-linux] kernel hang Sir Ace
@ 2003-01-28 5:08 ` Derek Engelhaupt
2003-01-28 13:23 ` Joel Soete
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Derek Engelhaupt @ 2003-01-28 5:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sir Ace, parisc-linux
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How long did you let it wait? Some of the machines prior to the C200 (my C360 doesn't do it either) seem to hang, but after 20 mins take off. It's a bus walk issue that takes forever. There was a patch for this that was posted recently to see if it resolved this issue. Let it sit there for awile and see if it eventually starts booting.
derek
Sir Ace <chandler@nateng.com> wrote:
I compiled 2.4.20, and set it up to boot from the new kernel.
Unfortunately it hung, at the
'if this the last message you see' part...
I can't find anything in the FAQ, and I didn't find anything in the bug
liste... The machine is a J210, any ideas? Or what kind of info should I
send?
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> Duh, I forgot that vmlinux gets dropped in /usr/src/linux...
> my bad...
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> >
> > Does vmlinuz work on hp?
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Randolph Chung wrote:
> >
> > > > make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> > > > either...
> > > >
> > > > What is the target for a kernel build?
> > >
> > > make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
> > > want make palo
> > >
> > > randolph
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > parisc-linux mailing list
> > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
>
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2003-01-28 5:08 ` Derek Engelhaupt
@ 2003-01-28 13:23 ` Joel Soete
2003-01-28 20:48 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-29 19:11 ` Sir Ace
2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Joel Soete @ 2003-01-28 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Derek Engelhaupt, Sir Ace, parisc-linux
Hi Derek,
>
>
>How long did you let it wait? Some of the machines prior to the C200 (my
>C360 doesn't do it either) seem to hang, but after 20 mins take off. It's
>a bus walk issue that takes forever. There was a patch for this that was
>posted recently to see if it resolved this issue. Let it sit there for
awile
>and see if it eventually starts booting.
Afaik this a seperated patch (not yet check into our stream):
see <http://lists.parisc-linux.org/pipermail/parisc-linux/2003-January/018980.html>
as well as successfull first test (so I presume will be ci soon)
<http://lists.parisc-linux.org/pipermail/parisc-linux/2003-January/019015.html>
Good luck,
Joel
PS: I also test it and it doesn't broken b2k and b180; so I think it could
be safely tested
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2003-01-28 5:08 ` Derek Engelhaupt
2003-01-28 13:23 ` Joel Soete
@ 2003-01-28 20:48 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-29 19:11 ` Sir Ace
2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-28 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
Ok, I could only wait 15 minutes or so before I bailed last night, It
apparently came up though since it was at a screen saver {blank screen}
though the system wouldn't respond...
I rebooted it and watched, it did take about 20 minutes, and it did hang
afterwards here are the last few lines:
sr0: scsi-1 drive
Unifrom CD-ROM driver Revision 3.12
mice: PS/2 mouse common for all mice
HP SDC: HP SDC at 0xffe01000, IRQ 126 (NMI IRQ 125)
HP SDC: New style SDC
HP SDC: Revision: 1820-4784
HP SDC: TI SN76494 beeper present
HP SDC: Spunking the self test register to force PUP on next firmware reset.
HP SDC: MLC: Registering the System Domain Controller HIL MLC.
HP i8042 SDC + MSM-58321 RTC support loaded (RTC v 1.10d)
Net 4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET 4.0
I had to type that by hand so please excuse any mispellings.
Should I have not added something {Maybe the RTC Supprt?} when I setup my
kernel?
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Derek Engelhaupt wrote:
>
> How long did you let it wait? Some of the machines prior to the C200 (my C360 doesn't do it either) seem to hang, but after 20 mins take off. It's a bus walk issue that takes forever. There was a patch for this that was posted recently to see if it resolved this issue. Let it sit there for awile and see if it eventually starts booting.
> derek
> Sir Ace <chandler@nateng.com> wrote:
> I compiled 2.4.20, and set it up to boot from the new kernel.
> Unfortunately it hung, at the
> 'if this the last message you see' part...
> I can't find anything in the FAQ, and I didn't find anything in the bug
> liste... The machine is a J210, any ideas? Or what kind of info should I
> send?
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> >
> > Duh, I forgot that vmlinux gets dropped in /usr/src/linux...
> > my bad...
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Does vmlinuz work on hp?
> > >
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Randolph Chung wrote:
> > >
> > > > > make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> > > > > either...
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the target for a kernel build?
> > > >
> > > > make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
> > > > want make palo
> > > >
> > > > randolph
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > parisc-linux mailing list
> > > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> > > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > parisc-linux mailing list
> > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
> >
>
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread* Re: [parisc-linux] kernel hang.
2003-01-28 5:08 ` Derek Engelhaupt
2003-01-28 13:23 ` Joel Soete
2003-01-28 20:48 ` Sir Ace
@ 2003-01-29 19:11 ` Sir Ace
2003-01-29 19:24 ` Grant Grundler
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sir Ace @ 2003-01-29 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: parisc-linux
Where was the patch posted? I don't have access to the CVS tree so I
downloaded the pa23 tarball {which was newer that the pa22 I was using} it
is hanging too...
I'm assuming your patch-2.4.20-pa23.diff.gz is to patch from pa22 to
pa23..
Thanks.
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Derek Engelhaupt wrote:
>
> How long did you let it wait? Some of the machines prior to the C200 (my C360 doesn't do it either) seem to hang, but after 20 mins take off. It's a bus walk issue that takes forever. There was a patch for this that was posted recently to see if it resolved this issue. Let it sit there for awile and see if it eventually starts booting.
> derek
> Sir Ace <chandler@nateng.com> wrote:
> I compiled 2.4.20, and set it up to boot from the new kernel.
> Unfortunately it hung, at the
> 'if this the last message you see' part...
> I can't find anything in the FAQ, and I didn't find anything in the bug
> liste... The machine is a J210, any ideas? Or what kind of info should I
> send?
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> >
> > Duh, I forgot that vmlinux gets dropped in /usr/src/linux...
> > my bad...
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sir Ace wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Does vmlinuz work on hp?
> > >
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Randolph Chung wrote:
> > >
> > > > > make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> > > > > either...
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the target for a kernel build?
> > > >
> > > > make vmlinux is the right target for harddisk boot. for network boot you
> > > > want make palo
> > > >
> > > > randolph
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > parisc-linux mailing list
> > > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> > > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > parisc-linux mailing list
> > parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> > http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
> >
>
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* Re: [parisc-linux] Kernel....
2003-01-28 4:23 ` [parisc-linux] Kernel Sir Ace
2003-01-28 4:24 ` Randolph Chung
@ 2003-01-28 9:07 ` Thibaut VARENE
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Thibaut VARENE @ 2003-01-28 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sir Ace; +Cc: parisc-linux
For heaven's sake! Everything is written and explained in the
PARISC-Linux Boot HOWTO.
That goes for Mr Mehta as well...
http://pateam.esiee.fr/doc.html
HTH,
Thibaut VARENE
The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
http://pateam.esiee.fr/
On mardi, jan 28, 2003, at 05:23 Europe/Paris, Sir Ace wrote:
>
> Quick question... I got the box back up and running and everything
> built.
>
> In PCs it's make zImage/bzImage
> on Alpha's it's make boot
>
> make boot doesn't work, and make vmlinux doesn't seem to be right
> either...
>
> What is the target for a kernel build?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> parisc-linux mailing list
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
> http://lists.parisc-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/parisc-linux
>
>
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