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From: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	James Bourne <jbourne@mtroyal.ab.ca>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
	szepe@pinerecords.com, arjanv@redhat.com,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 01:07:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030324000713.GA17795@werewolf.able.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6850000.1048463137@[10.10.2.4]>; from mbligh@aracnet.com on Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 00:45:38 +0100


On 03.24, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> >> O(1) sched may be a bad example ... how about the fact that mainline VM
> >> is totally unstable? Witness, for instance, the buffer_head stuff. Fixes
> >> for that have been around for ages. 
> > 
> > "totally unstable" being defined as:  My computers don't crash, and my
> > 100%-mainline test kernels pass various Cerberus/LTP/crashme runs.
> > 
> > Of course, I am not totally focused on multi-million-dollar computers, so
> > maybe my perspective is skewed...  ;-)
> 
> Last time I checked, a 2x machine with 4Gb of RAM didn't cost millions of
> dollars ;-)
> 
> > Fixes should be applied to 2.4-mainline, certainly.  Anything else just
> > wastes developer brain cycles and slows the move to 2.6.
> 
> Common vendor _features_ is maybe better done in a separate tree, I'd
> accept ... I'm just frustrated with the current lack of commonality between
> distros, I guess.
> 

You will never get distros to follow that. A 'featured-kernel-for-distro'...
Just take RH and SuSE (correct me if I'm wrong...)
RH ships -ac. SuSE ships -aa. At least both (-ac and -aa) have O(1) scheduler
now. -ac ships rmap, -aa ships -aa (;)). That means O(1) goes in your kernel,
but how about the VM subsystem ? 

But now that -ac does not include rmap, perhaps the VM can be chosen as the
one from Andrea...

(BTW, I have been runnin plan -pres for a couple of weeks, and now that I run
-aa again, my computer looks like a new one...)

-- 
J.A. Magallon <jamagallon@able.es>      \                 Software is like sex:
werewolf.able.es                         \           It's better when it's free
Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Bamboo) for i586
Linux 2.4.21-pre5-jam1 (gcc 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk))

  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-23 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-17 16:04 Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25 Alan Cox
2003-03-17 17:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-17 18:20   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 18:23     ` James Bourne
2003-03-17 18:27     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-21 21:17       ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 10:00         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-23 13:41           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 15:58             ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-23 19:25             ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:30               ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:34                 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:38                   ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:44                     ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:47                       ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 19:55                         ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 20:13                           ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:46                           ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 19:56                         ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 20:08                           ` Russell King
2003-03-23 22:26                             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 20:10                           ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:30                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 20:36                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 21:20                                 ` Martin Hermanowski
2003-03-23 21:35                                 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 21:53                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:21                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:29                                       ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:57                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  0:15                                           ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:43                                       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-03-23 22:54                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 23:19                                         ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  3:35                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24  3:54                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24  6:56                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 12:17                                             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:45                                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  0:07                                             ` J.A. Magallon [this message]
2003-03-24  6:52                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24  0:09                                             ` Christian Axelsson
2003-03-24 20:05                                         ` aradorlinux
2003-03-23 20:38                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-23 20:51                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24  0:51                                   ` Juan Quintela
2003-03-24  1:29                                     ` Brian Tinsley
2003-03-23 20:54                               ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:13                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 21:51                               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:14                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:46                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-25 11:35                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-25 11:36                               ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-23 20:09                         ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-23 20:21                           ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:49                           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:22                             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:56                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-24 15:33                       ` jlnance
2003-03-23 19:53                     ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24  0:08                       ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24  0:20                         ` James Bourne
2003-03-24  0:37                           ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24  0:50                             ` James Bourne
2003-03-24  0:39                           ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24  2:54                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24  2:57                               ` James Bourne
2003-03-24  2:59                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24 14:42                               ` Dave Jones
2003-03-27  7:47                                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-26 20:30                                   ` Dave Jones
2003-03-26 20:41                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-26 21:02                                       ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-27  5:20                                       ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 19:41                   ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:34     ` Alan Cox
2003-03-17 18:27       ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:23         ` Neale Banks
2003-03-18 18:44           ` James Bourne
     [not found] <20030317161020$42ed@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-17 18:39 ` Ben Pfaff
2003-03-18  1:46   ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-19 11:28 mlafon
2003-03-19 20:09 Matthew Grant
2003-03-19 21:34 ` Matthew Grant
     [not found] <20030323194012$6886@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030323194014$66c3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030323195010$5026@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030323195012$6f30@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030323200029$737b@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030323202005$2a74@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:33           ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 22:24             ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:46               ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 23:05                 ` Alan Cox
     [not found]       ` <20030323200023$1a65@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030323202014$096a@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:35           ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 20:59             ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:38 Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:06   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 10:30     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-24 10:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 15:40       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 16:55         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-27 14:47 Dr. Greg Wettstein

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