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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	Felipe Alfaro Solana <felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org>,
	Peter Lundkvist <p.lundkvist@telia.com>,
	akpm@digeo.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bad interactive behaviour in 2.5.65-66 (sched.c)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:35:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030331063548.GQ917@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030331033120.00cf0d08@pop.gmx.net>

On Mon, Mar 31 2003, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> At 07:06 AM 3/31/2003 +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> >On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 00:14, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >> On Sat, Mar 29 2003, Robert Love wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 21:33, Con Kolivas wrote:
> >> > > Are you sure this should be called a bug? Basically X is an 
> >interactive
> >> > > process. If it now is "interactive for a priority -10 process" then 
> >it
> >> > > should be hogging the cpu time no? The priority -10 was a workaround
> >> > > for lack of interactivity estimation on the old scheduler.
> >> >
> >> > Well, I do not necessarily think that renicing X is the problem.  Just
> >> > an idea.
> >>
> >> I see the exact same behaviour here (systems appears fine, cpu intensive
> >> app running, attempting to start anything _new_ stalls for ages), and I
> >> definitely don't play X renice tricks.
> >>
> >> It basically made 2.5 unusable here, waiting minutes for an ls to even
> >> start displaying _anything_ is totally unacceptable.
> >
> >I guess I should have trusted my own benchmark that was showing this was 
> >worse
> >for system responsiveness.
> 
> I don't think it's really bad for system responsiveness.  I think the 

What drugs are you on? 2.5.65/66 is the worst interactive kernel I've
ever used, it would be _embarassing_ to release a 2.6-test with such a
rudimentary flaw in it. IOW, a big show stopper.

> problem is just that the sample is too small.  The proof is that simply 
> doing sleep_time %= HZ cures most of my woes.  WRT contest and it's 

Irk, that sounds like a really ugly bandaid.

I'm wondering why the scheduler guys aren't all over this problem,
getting it fixed.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-31  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-29 21:32 Bad interactive behaviour in 2.5.65-66 (sched.c) Peter Lundkvist
2003-03-29 23:23 ` Robert Love
2003-03-30  1:21   ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-03-30  2:05     ` Robert Love
2003-03-30  2:33       ` Con Kolivas
2003-03-30  2:46         ` Robert Love
2003-03-30  3:58           ` Tom Sightler
2003-03-30  5:23             ` Andrew Morton
2003-03-30 19:24               ` Tom Sightler
2003-04-01  1:41               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2003-03-30 14:14           ` Jens Axboe
2003-03-30 21:06             ` Con Kolivas
2003-03-31  2:23               ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-31  6:35                 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2003-03-31  7:05                   ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-31  8:46                     ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-03-31  8:54                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-04-20  3:55                       ` Mike Galbraith
2003-04-18 13:58                   ` Mike Galbraith
2003-03-30 10:16       ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-03-30 11:18   ` Mika Liljeberg

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