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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	andrea@suse.de, mingo@elte.hu, hugh@veritas.com,
	dmccr@us.ibm.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: subobj-rmap
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 15:39:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030406223928.GR993@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030406215530.GC24710@mail.jlokier.co.uk>

Rik van Riel wrote:
>> I don't see how the data structure you describe
>> would allow us to efficiently select the subset
>> of VMAs for which:
>> 1) the start address is smaller than the address we want
>> and
>> 2) the end address is larger than the address we want

On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 10:55:30PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Think about the data structures some text editors use to describe
> special regions of the text.  A common operation is to search for all
> the special regions covering a particular cursor position.
> Several data structures are available.  I'm not aware of any that have
> perfect behaviour in all corner cases.
> It might be worth noting that these data structures are good at
> determining the set of regions covering position X+1 having recently
> calculated the set for position X.  Perhaps that has relevance for
> speeding up page scanning?

Multidimensional search trees are routine and decades old last I
checked; why do none of them suffice and why would they be good at
sequential queries?


-- wli

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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	andrea@suse.de, mingo@elte.hu, hugh@veritas.com,
	dmccr@us.ibm.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: subobj-rmap
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 15:39:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030406223928.GR993@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030406215530.GC24710@mail.jlokier.co.uk>

Rik van Riel wrote:
>> I don't see how the data structure you describe
>> would allow us to efficiently select the subset
>> of VMAs for which:
>> 1) the start address is smaller than the address we want
>> and
>> 2) the end address is larger than the address we want

On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 10:55:30PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Think about the data structures some text editors use to describe
> special regions of the text.  A common operation is to search for all
> the special regions covering a particular cursor position.
> Several data structures are available.  I'm not aware of any that have
> perfect behaviour in all corner cases.
> It might be worth noting that these data structures are good at
> determining the set of regions covering position X+1 having recently
> calculated the set for position X.  Perhaps that has relevance for
> speeding up page scanning?

Multidimensional search trees are routine and decades old last I
checked; why do none of them suffice and why would they be good at
sequential queries?


-- wli
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-06 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 211+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-04 14:34 objrmap and vmtruncate Hugh Dickins
2003-04-04 14:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2003-04-04 16:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-04 16:14   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-04 16:29   ` Hugh Dickins
2003-04-04 16:29     ` Hugh Dickins
2003-04-04 18:54 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-04 18:54   ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-04 21:43   ` Hugh Dickins
2003-04-04 21:43     ` Hugh Dickins
2003-04-04 21:45   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-04 21:45     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-04 21:58     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-04 21:58       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-04 23:07     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-04 23:07       ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  0:03       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  0:03         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  0:31         ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  0:31           ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  1:31           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  1:31             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  1:52             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-05  1:52               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-05  2:22               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  2:22                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 10:01                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-05 10:01                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-05 10:11                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-05 10:11                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-05  2:06             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  2:06               ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  2:24               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  2:24                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  2:13           ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  2:13             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  2:44             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  2:44               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05  3:24               ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  3:24                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 12:06                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 12:06                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 15:11                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05 15:11                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06  0:17                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  0:17                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  7:07                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  7:07                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-05 16:30                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 16:30                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 19:01                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 19:01                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 20:14                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 20:14                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 21:24                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 21:24                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 22:06                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 22:06                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 22:31                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 22:31                           ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 23:10                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-05 23:10                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06  1:58                             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  1:58                               ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06 14:47                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06 14:47                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06 21:35                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06 21:35                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  7:38                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  7:38                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06 14:51                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06 14:51                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06 12:37                           ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-06 12:37                             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-04-06 13:12                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06 13:12                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 11:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 11:00                             ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 11:54                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 11:54                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 14:31                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 14:31                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 14:56                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 14:56                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 15:26                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 15:26                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 16:20                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 16:20                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 16:57                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 16:57                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 17:21                                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 17:21                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 18:08                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 18:08                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 17:34                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 17:34                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 18:04                                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-22 18:04                                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-22 16:58                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 16:58                                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 12:37                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 12:37                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 13:20                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 13:20                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 14:38                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 14:38                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 15:10                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 15:10                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 15:53                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 15:53                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 14:52                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 14:52                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 14:29                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 14:29                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 15:07                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 15:07                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 15:42                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 15:42                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 15:55                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 15:55                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 16:58                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 16:58                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-22 17:07                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 17:07                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 15:16                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 15:16                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-22 15:49                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 15:49                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 16:16                                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 16:16                                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 17:24                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 17:24                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 17:45                                   ` John Bradford
2003-04-22 17:45                                     ` John Bradford
2003-04-22 14:32                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 14:32                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-22 15:09                               ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-22 15:09                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-04-05 21:34                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-05 21:34                       ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-06  9:29                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-06  9:29                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-05 23:25                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-05 23:25                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-05 23:57                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05 23:57                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  0:14                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06  0:14                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06  1:39                         ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  1:39                           ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  2:13                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  2:13                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  9:26                     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-06  9:26                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-04-06  9:41                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  9:41                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  9:54                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  9:54                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  2:23                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06  2:23                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06  3:55                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  3:55                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-06  3:08                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06  3:08                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06  7:42                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06  7:42                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06 14:49                     ` Alan Cox
2003-04-06 14:49                       ` Alan Cox
2003-04-06 16:13                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 16:13                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 21:34                         ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 21:34                           ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 21:42                           ` subobj-rmap Rik van Riel
2003-04-06 21:42                             ` subobj-rmap Rik van Riel
2003-04-06 21:52                             ` subobj-rmap Davide Libenzi
2003-04-06 21:55                             ` subobj-rmap Jamie Lokier
2003-04-06 21:55                               ` subobj-rmap Jamie Lokier
2003-04-06 22:39                               ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-04-06 22:39                                 ` subobj-rmap William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-06 22:03                             ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 22:03                               ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 22:06                               ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 22:06                                 ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 22:15                               ` subobj-rmap Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06 22:15                                 ` subobj-rmap Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06 22:25                                 ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 22:25                                   ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-07 21:25                                   ` subobj-rmap Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-07 21:25                                     ` subobj-rmap Andrea Arcangeli
2003-04-06 23:06                               ` subobj-rmap Jamie Lokier
2003-04-06 23:06                                 ` subobj-rmap Jamie Lokier
2003-04-06 23:26                                 ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-06 23:26                                   ` subobj-rmap Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  3:45               ` objrmap and vmtruncate Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  3:45                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  3:59               ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-05  3:59                 ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-05  4:10                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-05  4:10                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-04-05  4:49                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  4:49                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05 13:31                     ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-05 13:31                       ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-05  4:52               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  4:52                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  3:22             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  3:22               ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-05  3:35               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  3:35                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-04-05  3:53       ` Rik van Riel
2003-04-05  3:53         ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-07 23:00 subobj-rmap Chuck Ebbert

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