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From: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
To: Steven Dake <sdake@mvista.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: "Kevin P. Fleming" <kpfleming@cox.net>,
	linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, message-bus-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 00:38:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030411223856.GI21726@marowsky-bree.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E9741FD.4080007@mvista.com>

On 2003-04-11T15:30:21,
   Steven Dake <sdake@mvista.com> said:

> There is no "spec" that states this is a requirement, however, telecom 
> customers require the elapsed time from the time they request the disk 
> to be used, to the disk being usable by the operating system to be 20 msec.

Heh. Yes, I've read that spec, and some of it involves some good crack smoking
;-) The current Linux scheduler will make that rather hard for you, you'll
need hard realtime for such guarantees.

> Its even more helpful for their applications if the call that hotswap 
> inserts blocks until the device is actually ready to use and available 
> in the filesystem.  Another requirement of any system that attempts to 
> replace devfs would be this capability (vs constantly checking for the 
> device in the filesystem).

Uh. Can you please clarify?

You want open(/dev/not_there_yet) to block until /dev/not_there_yet is
inserted? But if it is not inserted, the device file does not exist yet, so
the open() will simply return a ENOENT.

The application (or a library, providing this capability you want) could
interact with the hotplug subsystem to be notified when this device is
inserted.


Sincerely,
    Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>

-- 
SuSE Labs - Research & Development, SuSE Linux AG
  
"If anything can go wrong, it will." "Chance favors the prepared (mind)."
  -- Capt. Edward A. Murphy            -- Louis Pasteur

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-11 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-11  3:24 [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release Greg KH
2003-04-11  6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:20   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46     ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:03       ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-11 18:12         ` Nicholas Berry
2003-04-11 18:41           ` Eric Weigle
2003-04-11 21:54           ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 18:23       ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:31         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:07           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:29             ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-12  8:07               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 23:27                 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  0:08               ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:21                 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12  8:40                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:52                     ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 19:28           ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:38             ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 23:26               ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:58             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:25               ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:19                   ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  1:06                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-12  4:43                       ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:56                       ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-12  4:20                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:29           ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:43             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:30               ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:38                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree [this message]
2003-04-11 22:43                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:58                     ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32                       ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45                         ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56                 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:31                   ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  6:45                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12 14:45                 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 22:09             ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19               ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:47                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:03                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  8:04                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 23:01               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:35                   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37                 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  7:49                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-19  4:39               ` David Brownell
2003-04-19  4:16           ` David Brownell
2003-04-11 18:30       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:00         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:09       ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:54         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:59           ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:16             ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16               ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23                 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:32                   ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:47                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:39               ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 22:03                 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:00             ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 21:28         ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 18:12     ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:52       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:31         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:10           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:56             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:03             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:27             ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:53               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18   ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:21   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:09     ` Nick Craig-Wood
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-12 12:18 Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12  4:22 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:59 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:36 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12  7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found] <20030411173018$2695@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <20030411175011$3d7e@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <20030411182022$7f7a@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <20030411184016$1180@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <20030411204006$0496@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <20030411205018$7440@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-04-11 21:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 21:57             ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:12               ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12  7:39               ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 22:35             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:05               ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 20:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:59   ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:32     ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:41       ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:51       ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:27         ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32           ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39             ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12  0:04     ` Joel Becker
     [not found] <200304112018.11931.freesoftwaredeveloper@web.de>
2003-04-11 18:50 ` Steve Lee
2003-04-11 19:09   ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-11  3:24 Greg KH
2003-04-11  6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18 ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:21 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:23 ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:31 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 18:52 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:09 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:28 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:29 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 19:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:38 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:59 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
2003-04-11 20:10 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:16 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:29 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:32 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:42 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:43 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:47 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:59 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 21:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:28 ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 21:52 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 22:00 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:03 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19 ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:27 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:30 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:36 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:38 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-11 22:41 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:42 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:43 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:51 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:59 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 23:01 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:03 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:25 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:25 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 23:26 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:27 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:31 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:35 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:04 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  0:11 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  0:19 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12  4:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12  6:45 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12  7:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12  8:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12 14:45 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-12 23:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-19  4:16 ` David Brownell
2003-04-19  4:39 ` David Brownell

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