From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 00:12:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200304120012.43051.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030411215755.GX1821@kroah.com>
On Friday 11 April 2003 23:57, Greg KH wrote:
> No, you want to make sure you have the same "name" after that. As any
> userspace apps that had a open file on the original disks are basically
> screwed anyway, we want a way to enable them to recover nicely.
>
> And no, I don't want to go into the whole, remove a device and plug it
> back in, and userspace never noticed the difference while it held an
> open file handle. That's a problem I don't want to even go near right
> now, and is totally different from what udev is trying to do :)
Ok, but that still leaves the race between creation and removal of devices
files. In my scenario three different bad things can happen:
- The file is removed after the device is added
- The file is added when the device is already unplugged again
- The file gets added with the wrong device number -> worst case
This can be avoided by completely serializing all events, both inside
the kernel and the execution of /sbin/hotplug, but that might cause
significant downtime.
Arnd <><
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2003-04-11 21:09 ` [ANNOUNCE] udev 0.1 release Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-11 21:57 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:12 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2003-04-12 7:39 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 22:35 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:05 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12 12:18 Arnd Bergmann
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2003-04-12 4:22 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:59 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:36 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-12 7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:42 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:59 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:41 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:51 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:27 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12 0:04 ` Joel Becker
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2003-04-11 18:50 ` Steve Lee
2003-04-11 19:09 ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-11 3:24 Greg KH
2003-04-11 6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:03 ` Michael Buesch
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Nicholas Berry
2003-04-11 18:41 ` Eric Weigle
2003-04-11 21:54 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 18:23 ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:31 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:29 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-12 8:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 23:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 23:39 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12 0:08 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 0:21 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2003-04-12 8:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12 8:52 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 19:28 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:38 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 23:26 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:25 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 0:19 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12 1:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-04-12 4:43 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:56 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-12 4:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:29 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:43 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:30 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:38 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-11 22:43 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:31 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12 6:45 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12 14:45 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-11 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19 ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:03 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 8:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 23:01 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:35 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-12 7:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-19 4:39 ` David Brownell
2003-04-19 4:16 ` David Brownell
2003-04-11 18:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:09 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:59 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:16 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:32 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:47 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 22:03 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:00 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 21:28 ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:52 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:10 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 22:27 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18 ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:21 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
2003-04-11 3:24 Greg KH
2003-04-11 6:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 17:10 ` Jeremy Jackson
2003-04-11 17:18 ` Justin Cormack
2003-04-11 17:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:21 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 17:46 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 18:02 ` Roman Zippel
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:12 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 18:23 ` Antonio Vargas
2003-04-11 18:30 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 18:31 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 18:52 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:00 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:09 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 19:28 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 19:29 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-11 19:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 19:38 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-04-11 19:54 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 19:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 19:59 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
2003-04-11 20:10 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:16 ` John Bradford
2003-04-11 20:16 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:23 ` Chris Hanson
2003-04-11 20:29 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 20:32 ` Mike Dresser
2003-04-11 20:39 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:42 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 20:43 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 20:47 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-04-11 20:48 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 20:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 20:59 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 21:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-11 21:28 ` Martin Mares
2003-04-11 21:52 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 22:00 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:03 ` Alex Bligh - linux-kernel
2003-04-11 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:19 ` Tim Hockin
2003-04-11 22:27 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:30 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:36 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:38 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-11 22:41 ` David Lang
2003-04-11 22:42 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 22:43 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 22:51 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 22:53 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:56 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:58 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 22:59 ` Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-04-11 23:01 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:03 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2003-04-11 23:25 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:25 ` Jason Riedy
2003-04-11 23:26 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-11 23:27 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:31 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:32 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:35 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:37 ` Greg KH
2003-04-11 23:39 ` Steven Dake
2003-04-11 23:45 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 0:04 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12 0:11 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 0:19 ` Joel Becker
2003-04-12 4:20 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 6:45 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-04-12 7:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12 7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12 8:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-12 8:07 ` Greg KH
2003-04-12 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2003-04-12 14:45 ` Alan Cox
2003-04-12 23:27 ` Havoc Pennington
2003-04-19 4:16 ` David Brownell
2003-04-19 4:39 ` David Brownell
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